Member Jonathan Kay Posted November 3, 2023 Member Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, coolcatshaft said: I've bought the eBay ones too! But am a complete newbie with spanner work. Are the connections behind the nose cone? I have Assembly Guides and wiring diagrams for any Member who wants them. As the initial guide to identifying wires I recommend "Commonly used colour codes for British car wiring". IIRC the only tricky job is feeding wires through the wingstay, and for most replacements of this type that isn't necessary. Jonathan Edited November 3, 2023 by Jonathan Kay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducatidentist Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Thanks JK and PP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jody391 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 I’ve just received my car builder solutions 5.75” head light bowls, my EBay Cafe racer lamps are due Monday and I’ve bought the newer head light brackets on the newer cars. (Mines and imperial) I bought the lowering brackets off here but they sat so far back you couldn’t see the indicators, and I saw this as abit dangerous. my question is can someone share with me some good images of where the wiring now runs with these brackets? im sure there is a hole drilled into the chassis wishbone mount are for the wires to run through but just want to be clear of the path. cheers, Jode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jody391 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 So I’ve just completed fitting the latest head light brackets, car builder solutions (the same as Caterham parts) and the EBay Cafe racer style LED lights! simple install and they look so much better! The newer brackets (mines an imperial car) really suit the car sitting further forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jody391 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph45 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Looks good, I’ve just tried to find the head light brackets on car builder’s web site, but no luck. Have you a part number or key word I may have missed? tia, Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jody391 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 The brackets are from Caterham direct mate. the bowls are from Car builder solutions. here: https://caterhamparts.co.uk/brackets/7753-headlamp-bracket-lhs.html?search_query=Head+light+brackets&results=343 This is LHS so just find the RHS on there. jode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph45 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Thanks, that would explain why I can’t find the mounting brackets on their site. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlastererPete Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Excuse the thread resurrection but I found these while getting lost down a google rabbit hole:- https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/headlight-unit-sip-performance-led-round-o-143-mm_57217100 Correct me if I’m wrong but are these not the same as the Caterham ones? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevehS3 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 They look the same and the markings are almost identical. Just a thought, car headlights are designated LHD or RHD, I wonder what a single light scooter would be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlastererPete Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Never thought about that StevehS3. I think an email is in order to see if they stock the correct ones for the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevehS3 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 I don’t know the answer - just somethings check. 👍 Closeups of the number idents. The CC ones are stolen from the BC Rust thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan R Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 That's a remarkable coincidence isn't it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM7 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I've been this rabbit hole at the beginning of the year. The Sip scooter shop LED's are LHD (NS-2270) they don't supply RHD (NS-2273). I then contacted the manufacturer of the Caterham LED's to try and blag a set but was unsuccessful, however they did put me in touch with the UK distributor who supplies Caterham and would supply them direct at a cost £221.80 + vat, they also supply the headlight bowls which includes the wiring harness at £35.95. In the end I opted for the Ebay cafe racer style ones, but don't pay full price they accept very low offers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, MM7 said: In the end I opted for the Ebay cafe racer style ones, but don't pay full price they accept very low offers. They declined my offer of £35 for a pair earlier this week. They said £40 was the lowest they'd go. Assuming the same seller of course. Maybe too many Blatchatters have been asking 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlastererPete Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Had a reply from a supplier in germany (via ebay) and apparently the ones they sell are not handed 🤔 they list the “ns 2270” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM7 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 The info I had from the sole UK distributor is NS 2270 is LHD, NS 2273 is RHD and as fitted by Caterham , NS 2271 has straight beam pattern for USA market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlastererPete Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, MM7 said: The info I had from the sole UK distributor is NS 2270 is LHD, NS 2273 is RHD and as fitted by Caterham , NS 2271 has straight beam pattern for USA market Beat me too it. I was just about to edit my post. I found the manufacturer in Taiwan and you’re 100% right. Sorry for the doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted December 7, 2023 Member Share Posted December 7, 2023 Ignorant question: wasn't there some previous discussion about not having or needing handed dipped beams? Same lamp on left and right? Thanks Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted December 7, 2023 Support Team Share Posted December 7, 2023 Yes, flat top beams are OK for MOT: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted December 7, 2023 Member Share Posted December 7, 2023 Thanks, Shaun. Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooley Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) Mine were £32 for the pair from eBay and the spread of the lights on dipped beam look like this (before fiddling) they are also CE labelled J Edited December 7, 2023 by Hooley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 21 hours ago, StevehS3 said: They look the same and the markings are almost identical. Just a thought, car headlights are designated LHD or RHD, I wonder what a single light scooter would be? Most new lights on car are flat dip meaning the manufacrueres can use the same light for lh 7 rh drive, motor bikes use the same style. My LED liights are flat dip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridgway Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 sorry, probably being unobservant here, but can someone point me at the LED lights on ebay? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative bluenose Posted December 9, 2023 Area Representative Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 28/10/2023 at 19:29, PlastererPete said: Are these the same as the cafe racer ones? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304860958864?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=nbUfGDNkSn2&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=m7NV-5oRR3q&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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