Delberts Wallet Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Thinking of selling the Brooklands and changing to the new removable Aero. Does anyone have any back/back info on how they perform. I quite like the brooklands because they are adjustable but like the looks and weight saving etc of the aero. Thoughts good and bad? Blue and Carbon 6 Speed Supersport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumster Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Gareth, I currently run with the Brooklands set-up and wouldn't change. 2 reasons: 1. '93 car in BRG with yellow nose cone and I think the 'classic' Brooklands look suits my car compared to a black aero and 2. Having been in another 7 with interchangeable aeros I felt that the Brooklands offered far more protection. Just my 2p worth Chris Alston 1800 Supersprint here Drive it like you stole it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberts Wallet Posted February 23, 2004 Author Share Posted February 23, 2004 I know what you mean but my car has some black bits ie carbon wing protectors, black miniators and will soon have bare carbon front wings. Piccy here Blue and Carbon 6 Speed Supersport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveP Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Get the interchangeable aero, then I can see how it looks before I buy one 😬 SteveP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertie Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 In which case you need a carbon aero, just don't go putting "Superlight" stickers on it!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberts Wallet Posted February 23, 2004 Author Share Posted February 23, 2004 😬 Blue and Carbon 6 Speed Supersport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiF Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Can someone tell me what angle they find best to set a brooklands screen at? Also what difference lowering the angle by a small amout makes? Richard in France Flying fast in my very bright yellow 226bhp Duratec 7, with internal kevlar/carbon panels and pushrod suspension 😬 😬 😬.for pictures of 7 and carbon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Richard, I found the best angle by trial and error - they are easily adjusted while driving in a staright line. Mine are set at about 45 degrees. Down a bit I get more direct airflow and up a bit, more turbulance. My head does stick up a long way, being 6' 2" 😬 BRG Summertime Brooklands SV 😬 It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye. (Antoine de Saint-Exupery) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrino Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 I wonder if anyone has ever had their Brooklands aeroscreens powder coated matt black 🤔 I am still wondering if this would look ridiculous or not. Anyone 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumster Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Wot! and get tinted glass as well 😬 Chris Alston 1800 Supersprint here Drive it like you stole it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberts Wallet Posted February 23, 2004 Author Share Posted February 23, 2004 Did think about doing it and replacing glass with tinted perspex or something like that. 😳 Blue and Carbon 6 Speed Supersport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumster Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Richard, Not sure if there is a definitve answer as there are too many variables: Types of seat Position of seat on runners Height of driver Type of driving I tend to vary the rake on my Brooklands screen depending on the type of driving i.e M-way driving I tend to shuffle down in the seat and then tilt the screen up so that I end up looking through the glass; for track driving I prefer the screen lower so that I can see over it, there will be slightly more buffeting but as I'm wearing a helmet it's not so noticeable. Just a few thoughts Chris Alston 1800 Supersprint here Drive it like you stole it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiff Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 I had Brooklands on my old car and have the interchangeable aero on the new. The aeroscreen offers minimal protection compared to the Brooklands. With the aero the airflow hits me (5ft 10") around eyebrow level, whereas with the Brooklands I felt it was mostly passing over my head. Another thing I notice is that with the aero, on the way to a track day, driving for an hour or more on a motorway/A road with a helmet on, my neck gets quite tired due to my head constantly resisting the airflow. This didn't happen with the Brooklands. Luckilly it is not the case on the track with constant changes of speed/direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Sorry to sound like a doughnut but have never seen a Brooklands screen in the flesh. A few questions to those that have one fitted. Is any drilling of the car required or does it directly replace the windscreen 🤔 If so how long to interchange the two 🤔 What about mirrors are they attached directly to frame work and if so is it pre-drilled 🤔 Or will the car need drilling 🤔 Obviously there will be a weight saving over the srceen any idea how much 🤔 And lastly are Caterham and Demon Tweaks the only place to purchase them 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumster Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Tony, There seem to be 2 methods of fitting Brooklands. Firstly by fitting the whole assembly i.e 2 screens and aluminium stanchion.Secondly by fitting the screens directly to the scuttle therefore not requiring the stanchion. On the former method no drilling is required. The aluminium stanchion fits directly onto the 2 holes either side of the scuttle where the windscreen is attached. To remove the windscreen you will need to remove the knee trim panels on either side by drilling out the rivets in order to get to the nylocs. Once replaced use self tappers to refix the panels for future use. I believe on some newer 7s that you do not need to remove the panels as the bolts have captive nuts With practice it should only take 15/20 mins to interchange between the windscreen and the aeros. Most people seem to use SPA mirrors (central and side) which bolt onto the aluminium stanchion. This then means that the whole assembly (stanchion, aeros and mirrors) is attached solely by the 4 winsdscreen bolts. The SPA side mirrors need an allen key to tighten up the mirrors on the stems IYSWIM so you'll need to do this prior to fixing the mirrors. Unfortunately they occasionally come loose which means you have to remove the mirror to re-tighten it. To get round this problem I simply drilled a hole through the stanchion and the scuttle so that I can use an allen key from inside the scuttle. No idea on the actual weight saving. I'd guess that the only place you'll get the stanchion is from CC or DT, however you can purchase the individual screens directly from the manufacturer. I don't have the details but if you do a search you should find the details. Chris Alston 1800 Supersprint here Drive it like you stole it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Excellent, Thanks Chris, have been in touch with Caterham and they can sell me the Brooklands kit complete, minus the VAT. Should I get the Spa mirrors there as well (minus the VAT) or would they be cheaper somewhere else 🤔 I'm also assuming they sell the mirrors in chrome as black would look out of place with the chrome Brooklands kit 🤔 Very confused on costs ie: Caterham £235 complete, minus VAT = £193.88 Demon Tweaks £250 complete, excluding VAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casbar Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 I bought the stanchion from Caterham and the screens from Kimble engineering in Dartmouth ( they have the licence to make original Brooklands) slightly cheeper than Caterham. Mirrors, I already had SPA, but got a different stem from them, so the mirror would sit up higher, therefore I could see over the rear wing. I didn't use an SPA rear view, I bought an adj chrome mirror, that is off a Jag X 120, these can be bought from classic car suppliers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrino Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 My Seven has the 4 Brooklands 'platforms' bolted permanently to the scuttle (ie. I don't use the one-piece Brooklands stanchion). I then have SPA-type mirrors bolted through the hole for the heated windscreen power cable. To switch to full windscreen, I just whip off the Brooklands from the platforms and then put on the windscreen/stanchions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiF Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Thanks for the info on angles of brooklands and the differences between driving with an aeroscreen. Will see how our aeroscreen works this week and compare. Richard in France Flying fast in my very bright yellow 226bhp Duratec 7, with internal kevlar/carbon panels and pushrod suspension 😬 😬 😬.for pictures of 7 and carbon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Richard, How long before you would produce the aero's after the testing 🤔 A rough guide line to general costs 🤔 On the verge of purchasing the Brooklands, just got to get the delivery sorted which could be a pain in the 🙆🏻 Willing to wait if answers to above were suitable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 RiF, Also interested in any aeroscreen you develop. Cheer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberts Wallet Posted February 27, 2004 Author Share Posted February 27, 2004 Don't worry about Hi-Jacking the thread Maybe intersted too Blue and Carbon 6 Speed Supersport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James B. Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 Can one of you Brooklands owners tell me what sort of speeds are comfortable with out a crash-helmet and how a brooklands screen compares with a normal windscreen without doors. I find the buffeting pretty uncomfortable at anything over 80. Of course I never actually drive at anything over 70 😬 James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Nick Chan Posted February 29, 2004 Area Representative Share Posted February 29, 2004 James, With a screen and no doors, the buffeting for some (wife!) can tend to be a bit too much as you pass 70. Adding the wind deflectors will improve things at the legal limit but not by that much. With Brooklands screens on and as they can be seperately adjusted for driver and passenger, I find that I can cruise pretty much at 100 mph. I use Fred's Wiley-X googles to stop my eyes watering but the wind effect is completely different to the screen/no doors option. Rather than have any buffeting when your head is being battered from either side, the airflow is much smoother. Much like sitting in front of a large deskfan that is constantly on. If you use Autocom headsets, there is no background interference as the wind is straight onto the back of the mike (much like on a motorbike) and not cutting across from the windscreen, causing a large roar. Best thing is to see which local blatchatter has them on a car and go for a decent blat HTH Nick Yellow HPC - A 2.0 VX - 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James B. Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 Thanks Nick, I shall have to try and find one, there's not many of us se7eners in Torquay. James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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