Hi, Saki,thanks for the input. That's a bit big to carry in the 7 for nearly 4 weeks round Spain, France, Italy & back but I've looked at the noco GB40, Tracklite T8 and a few others. Should also mention I've got the Powervamp PC680 drycell. Thanks again Jonathan, The Smartbox 6s looks like it'd do a job but it only has a 12v jump start output, no standard 12v o/p for other ancillaries . I've also found the Beatit range doh...................