hi clive,we went buckley to ruthin to cerrigydrudion to crimean pass to blaenau ffestiniog,ffestiniog,bala,brenig,then home.next time your on our asphalt,we could have brekky at conwy falls cafe,then go for a blast if you like,i'm sure some of my mates,and some of yours could get together one sunday to make a glorious racket.