Dobuy Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Caused by the idiot driver.... Managed to crack my block today on the track, ran over some very bumpy rumble strips, smacked the Raceline Dry Sump and cracked the block, just at the sump join face. Didn't think I hit it that hard, so off to the garage to whip out the engine. Pictures to follow. Anyone got a cheap 2.3 block ?????? Duratec SV, built in Dubai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruff seven Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Sorry to hear that Dobuy, money,money,money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeK Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Indeed. I was sitting next to Dobuy when it happened- I hope my weight was not a contributory factor 😳 As I said, thanks very much Dobuy for meeting up with me, the chats and the hot laps- great fun , but obviously a shame regarding the aftermath ☹️. Hopefully will catch up next Sat for the Golf racing. Let me know if I can be of any assistance with either. MikeK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonbell Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Look on the bright side.........you have an excuse for some upgrades Simon Bell - Caterham 7 Duratec R I`ve seen the future.....and it`s powered by duratec Check out the website here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeE Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Neil, you probably know this but I was told today that the 2.3l is now becoming difficult to get hold of - do you still have a supply as I'm finding it impossible to resist the temptation to upgrade so want to start collecting the bits R400 Duratec Build and Modification Pictures here Edited by - MikeE on 20 Jan 2007 18:10:25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobuy Posted January 20, 2007 Author Share Posted January 20, 2007 Here are some pics of the damage here and here Looks like a new block to me, don't think it can be welded. Hope the smack did not damage the crank. I will take the sump off tomorrow and have a look to see how bad it is. Mike, I had heard 2.3's were harder to get than a 2.0, might have to spring for a short engine, then I will have a spare crank Duratec SV, built in Dubai Edited by - Dobuy on 20 Jan 2007 19:20:39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMO Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Neil Bad luck. I would attempt to weld it. In extreme cases you can just build up with weld and re-machine. Shouldn't be a problem. I've repaired stuff lik this in the past. As for the crank, if there is no damage to the pulley it's unlikely that it has been damaged. I can't see from the pics. You are not looking for an excuse to spend some money are you? New crank perhaps? 😬 AMMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosetestbestanden Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Fwiw, crate engines are available for about $2100 (US - about £17.50 😳) or so. I couldn't find much online when looking for just a long block. I used the following number for the crate engine (found in our NASA - a grassroots racing sanction body, not the space fellas - rules & regs): Duratec 2.3 M-6007-D23 ------- Chris Blatus vincit omnia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molecular--Bob Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 These folks do duratec stuff, here including a 2.5 short block, may be able to sort you out with a bare block. I know nothing about them, just found the site when i was looking for duratec info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se7enmad Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 isn't that 2.5 the 5 cylinder variant though, as in the ST? Antonella 1998 Classic 1.6 Vx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Zarcoff Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 I thought the ST Mundano was a V6? I like cream... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molecular--Bob Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 The 2.5 is a darton sleeved 91mm bore based on a 2.3, with a 96mm steel crank and eagle rods. I have no idea about quality, as i thought the eagle rods weren't the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R500MATT Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 I am sure that will stitch, there are specialist companies that do block stitching. Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobuy Posted January 21, 2007 Author Share Posted January 21, 2007 Ok managed to strip it all down this afternoon updated pictures here Looks like it is not too bad I think I may be able to get the block welded, the problem is that it is hard to find someone you can trust to do it right out here in Dubai. Not so sure about the sump, as it has a slight bend in it as well as a crack. I am really glad I found the worn dome head allen bolt in the sump, as I heard a noise just before shutting it down and had visions of damaged cranks etc. It is tempting to try and repair the sump, as I am sure a new pan will not be cheap. One plus side is I got to have a good look at all the internals and after several (very hot) track days there is negligible wear to the rest of the engine Duratec SV, built in Dubai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMO Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Neil I think it is possible to fix. Needs stripping right down cleaning very carefully, welding and machining back. If you are not worried about a repaired block that is probably the way to go. I have a guy I use for welding and we do the machine work in house. If you want to ship it over I'll be happy to have a look at it for you and give you a quote. It has to be cheaper than buying a new block and sump. AMMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobuy Posted January 21, 2007 Author Share Posted January 21, 2007 Thanks for the offer AMMO, I will see how I get on with a local engineering company I have just been told about. Shame I was not more local to you, at least I know it would be in safe hands then. Mind you by the time I shipped it to you and got it repaired, I bet you would have shown me some nice pictures of steel cranks and the moths would be well and truly out of my wallet. At least in Dubai, you know there is nothing worth buying for a Duratec 😬 Duratec SV, built in Dubai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMO Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Good luck with the local guys. It would be a pain to have to ship it all this way just to have it welded. In a few months time I should have some new bits that I may be able to tempt you with 😬 AMMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiF Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Sorry to hear the news Neil ☹️ on the bright side you said you find the build as much fun as the drive RiF Flying even faster in my very bright yellow 226bhp Duratec 7, with internal kevlar/carbon panels and pushrod suspension 😬 😬 😬.for pictures of 7 and carbon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stijn LUYCK 1 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Dobuy, I'm in Dubai at the moment and flying back to the UK via Qatar on Thursday. Should you need something taken over then let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobuy Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 Hi Stijn, Thanks for the offer, actually I am going to the UK tonight for work Cheers, Neil. Duratec SV, built in Dubai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickrick Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Sickening sound isn't it ☹️ Tough luck, but fixable. Good luck with it. Semper in excreta solum profundum variat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Ouch Neil - I'd take the Landcruiser out next time. At least you'd have some ground clearance. I thought the track had been resurfaced? Where are these rumble strips? I'm out there again 12th Feb (subject to BA strikes) so in case you need anything, let me know. Cheers Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobuy Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 Hi Mike, same place they have always been, you just didn't use quite as much of the track as I did *tongue* Duratec SV, built in Dubai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobuy Posted January 28, 2007 Author Share Posted January 28, 2007 Well got it welded up yesterday, nice job by one of the local engineering companies. Welder didn't speak a word of English, all done for the princely sum or £45 Rebuild starts next week. Duratec SV, built in Dubai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMO Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Good luck with the re-build. Glad you managed to get it welded. AMMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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