Never been the same since they removed the DCM from Nitromors with the result that it's a paint stripper that doesn't strip paint anymore . Chlorinated hydrocarbons are death of course My 15 year old bottle of Turtle Wax Rust Eater turned to hard jelly, so couldn't be brush painted any more-so I bought the new Hammerite Curust (Akzo Nobel) equivalent, what a load of total rubbish, thin as water so can only be applied on top of surfaces, great for chassis repairs, I don't think!!! As you say POR15 is probably the best choice now, imported from the States, so good on yer, Mr. Trump and those before you who believe industry has a place in modern society.