Hi john g, it does help me, I now know this can happen so I'm not going mad and doubting everything I do so thanks. That was the way I was trying to think of it ScottR400D, I know leaks through molecule size is a thing through talking to people at work but it's hard to relate that to a car brake system. The bores and pistons looked good when I did the seals but that doesn't mean I didn't miss something so yeah, as messy as it will be, taking things apart again is on the horizon. The flex lines are 14 years old, I have found someone on eBay selling seal kits for the Seven master cylinder that I have so have bought one as they don't seem that readily available. I'm almost tempted to bite the bullet and just do the M/C, get new flexibles, and new calipers (or new pistons, bleed nipples and checking where the nipple seats) rather than one thing at a time to minimise the amount of mess taking apart/brake fluid used. Cheers Ivan