Rob Bailey Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Failed Unfortunately: 1. Emissions 2. Noise - by 2 db 3. Couldn't test the speedometer - it is fitted to the front wheel (the stack sensor is) 4. Couldn't ratify the age of the engine even though the supplier had put it on his invoice (needs a suzuki letter, suzuki say they cannot tell the age from the engine serial number) 5. Cooling pipe to close to the steering column - no biggie I hope Anybody got any experience with this that may help? Especially concerned about items 1, 2 and 4 Thanks in advance - as always Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxseven Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 ☹️ sorry no answers, but, just out of interest - what year is your engine and what emissions were they testing it to? Caterham Fireblade here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Bailey Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 1999 according to z-cars, tested to the following: (Other with CAT) At 2.5K to 3K rpm CO less than or equal to 0.3% HC less than or equal to 200 ppm Lambda Probe - less than or equal to 0.97 - 1.03 At idle (0.45 to 1.5K rpm) CO less than or equal to 0.5% I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame W Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Squeaked my daughters partners year 2000 ZXR engined DAX through last year. Real killer was the fast idle .3% CO,. its 10 times lower than the bike limit. SVA specific map was no use, eventually the SVA guys let me lean it off via the lap top and power commander whilst it was running and being tested and then they hit the result button when we touched .3% Regarding noise we just made an attenuator to stick up the exhaust, but later experiments have shown that reducing the internals to 2 inch helps quite a lot, just under 100db, at 2.5 inch it hits 112 db at the Brands drive by on the main straight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Bailey Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 Glad to hear that it is possible to get the CO levels down, I thought that may be impossible nearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 The SVA test centre at Beverly near Hull passed my stack dash (he went through the routine of strapping the car down with the back wheels on the rollers and started it going and remarked that the speedo was not reading anything. When I pointed out that the speedo worked off the front wheels he looked a little pi$$ed off that he'd strapped down the car for nothing. If he'd told me what he was doing I'd have saved him the trouble 😬) I did need Caterham to send a fax to the test centre to confirm that the dash would read up to the cars estimated maximum speed, they duly sent one that said it was accurate to something silly like 500 mph or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Bailey Posted April 26, 2006 Author Share Posted April 26, 2006 Graham W - When adjusting the levels on the power commander do you just concentrate on the 1500 / 3000 rpm levels or do you need to look at the fuelling level around those points? What did you take it down to? -20 ish Hopefully... I'll get an answer off Caterham today on the speedo, but we'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame W Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 Robert Just concentrated on the sub 3000 area as rest was OK unfortunately do not have data here at work will try to find tonight and post don't think we had to go as low as -20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Elizabeth Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 I asked about Suzuki engine age verification on the yahoo BEC forum, I think Craig who is building a GSXR100 Phoenix did this, and it cost him a fair amount for just a letter. Will do a search and post the response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Elizabeth Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 "The expensive answer is write to Sukuki and they tell you from the engine number (which is stamped on the gearbox casing, and will be mostly obscured by the electric reverse, if you partook of such). 70GBP is the 'administration charge' although how much administration can typing a number into a computer take?" Which might not help, if they now say they can't tell from the engine no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Bailey Posted April 26, 2006 Author Share Posted April 26, 2006 Yep, pretty expensive for a letter - £70? When I spoke to Suzuki, they denied all knowledge of being able to get the age from the serial number, but why stick a fecking serial number on an engine if they cannot trace where it went? I think they just can't be ars*d, which is nice. Spoke to Caterham about the speedo calibration check and they told me all the other SVA can check it. The SVA inspector denied this was true - so this looks like another dead end. I really feel it is like a wee game for the SVA, they know full well that I will be making it non-SVA compliant as soon as I get the certification. They have different emmision rules for motorbikes than they do cars with motorbike engines - Are they short of common sense I wonder! Not Happy ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannylt Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 Take to a another SVA place? Radical had many cars through SVA but their usual place was busy when they booked mine in. The new place came up with plenty of things to fail on so there seems to be plenty of inconsistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Bailey Posted April 26, 2006 Author Share Posted April 26, 2006 Might be worth a go if the nearest wasn't 200 miles away unfortunately Reminds me again of why I live in Aberdeen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Bailey Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 Anyone else got any suggestions on what I could do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxseven Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Probably a stupid idea, but do you have any mates with an SVA complient engine you can stick in the 7 for the purposes of the SVA test?? Just a thought. Caterham Fireblade here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Bailey Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 Unfortunately not, all my mates think I am a bit weird putting a motorbike engine in a car I built myself. The Westfield chaps have advised I take the fuel pressure down to about 13 PSI. Will take it to a freindly garage next week to get it tested. No solutions on the stack wheel speed calibration or proof of engine age yet though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 How about taking the tester out with a GPS to compare the speedo to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_C Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Or fit a Sigma bike comp to the rear wheel? Cheers Tom FH54WLX - only the car supports ManU, honest! see here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxseven Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 all my mates think I am a bit weird putting a motorbike engine in a car I built myself you wait until they have been in it , payback time 😬 😬 Caterham Fireblade here Edited by - Manxseven on 27 Apr 2006 18:00:28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Bailey Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 Manxseven - I can't wait. Are them bike computers cheap then, all I want is to get it through the test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSL Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 They won't think that when its spinning the crap out of the rear tyres in 3rd gear in the dry, they will think you're mental then 😬 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_C Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 From £15 ish for a bike comp. I've got the all-singing top of the range effort for about £25 from ebay. Cheers Tom FH54WLX - only the car supports ManU, honest! see here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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