Lennie

Tell Moira not to worry this time we come to you, can't wait to see the new garage.

How can we forget you Julian ! Your car will have the welded in engine diagonals and we are not too happy with the fit of the rear support arms, ask Richard. Billys were ok as we could fabricate supports suitable for the removable type using our dev car as a pattern, but we are not happy to send them out as they are 'Perfection is only just good enough' Billy Rudd 2003. We are speaking to Arch and should have them ready soon enough. We are based 5 minutes from Brands the kettle is always on and if you time it right there could be some donuts left. Open invite if any body wants to come down give me or Gary a ring first, as we may be away racing, and you are more than welcome. While on can I say that the pushrod concept, design and set up is completly Gary's. As you may have noticed Gary has a very laid back approach to life and thats why I answer the postings etc. I have had some input to the project, as with the others we have in the pipeline, but Pushrod is his baby. I intend though to take a bit more credit for the next thing we have up our sleeve.

Thanks for all the nice comments. If this appears to be advertising please tell me, I will only answer the questions that are asked and the reasons. The road system has no anti-roll bar, at the moment, We found that not connecting the front wheels allows the wheels to work much better independently and the rising rate suspension meant that as the car loaded up, under cornering, roll was not a problem. We have got a development bar which we need to test on the track. It fits inside the nose so as not to affect the looks and is connected to the rockers by drop links which means it is not preloaded and can be easily disconnected. One of the problems is that as a roll-bar works by twisting along it’s length ours is much shorter and the arms act over a smaller length, compared to a standard bar, every thing is thin and soft, but, hence it is light. Going on to the weight issue as raised by edmunsand we weighed the bits today, as I read the postings this morning, unfortunately we only had an old set of bathroom scales because the corner weights only go to 0.5 Kg. and it goes as follows. Standard Caterham with 5/8 roll bar, Bilstien dampers with stiff spring, adjustable platforms was 12Kg. Freestyle pushrod, Alloy spring damper [standard fit] !.4 Kg each =2.8Kg pushrods, damper tower, struts and alli rockers 2.6Kg Wishbones 2.0 KG each side =4.0Kg, spherical joints and all extra nuts and bolts about 1Kg. Total 10.4 development roll bar [not powder coated] with links about 1Kg. The other consideration is that as we take the very heavy dampers and replace them with lighter ones closer to the centre of the car you reduce the yaw inertia. Bit like having a weight on the end of a piece of string and swinging it, the closer you get to the centre and the lighter it is the less inertia there is. Hope that helps.

Thanks Billy. Very sorry for the wait but as you say ’ perfection is only just good enough’, and I will get the plaque off as soon as it arrives, don’t hold your breath thought as it is being made by the same people who did the rockers. We are very pleased with the response so far, working on the project for so long means you can become insular so it is good to get the feed back from experienced Seven drivers. On Thursday my old racing adversary Steve Bennett ‘ from Circuit Driver magazine is testing it at Brands so if any of you are there come over and say hello. The bolt in engine bay diagonals have been deleted on all new chassises we think because it’s cheaper and they were originally introduced for the 2.0 Vauxhall. So all our struts were made to fit this type of chassis and the rears are not interchangeable. Our new demo car has the removable struts so we are getting some jigged up now, the rest of the system remains the same. Edited by - Len Unwin on 26 Aug 2003 18:57:33

Ring me on 01892 540828 I may try to sell you an adjustable one but I can give you advice depending on spring rates.

Still for sale . Can be seen at Caterham sales and will have 53 plate.

Just a thought, reading the thread, it is definite that you need side repeaters for a MOT but the all in one wrap around type are OK so what if you turn the existing pod through 45 Degrees so it can be seen from the front and side would that be alright?

You will have to show me how to do that.

Wish I knew how to do that. Posting is just a sneaky way of getting the car back to the top.

Griff, I was always confused with the colours which is why I always quote bar size. The colours do refer to the bushes so your orange ones on 18 mm tends to confirm that they have changed. Caterham could not say if they had but that list is the current spec.

Our standard bar goes from slightly softer than the Caterham 1/2" to just over the standard 5/8th. We have done a stiffer bar for the supergrad race cars which goes from just under 5/8 th to 18mm. Now I have to admit that I was never sure of the colours as Caterham tell me that it has changed. I have now confirmed with them that this is the difinitive list. Orange 3/8 and 1/2 Blue 9/16 Red 5/8 Green 18mm Purple 19mm. Edited by - Len Unwin on 24 Jun 2003 09:56:33

1800 Supersport Honda Monte Carlo blue [see our web site].Comes with our handling kit so is ideal for both road and track day with Yoko AO32, 500 miles and is as new,The car is not registered but has been SVA'd so you will be the first name on the V5, and we will carry out the registration. The car was built by myself and Gary May so is of the highest standard. Offers around £19950 Including free delivery in the UK. 01892 540828 07946 634021. Edited by - Len Unwin on 23 Jun 2003 09:42:05

Freestyle have for sale on behalf of a customer a complete set of Bilstien wide track dampers, springs and a watts linkage. All parts are brand new never been fitted and the shocks have adjustable platforms. We are open to offers.01892 540828 07946 634021 Edited by - Len Unwin on 23 Jun 2003 09:40:57

Phone number 01892 540828 07946 634021 any time.

There is a measurment from the centre of the steering wheel that allows anything within that radius to be allowed. I think it is something like 120mm.

Thanks for that bilbo and yes you do get the PR job.

Thanks for that.

Good man, you know it makes sense.

The complete set is £395 inclusive with choice of springs alloys are £30 per damper extra. Hope this is not advertising but the question was asked. 01892 540828

We are selling our demo car Spec is 1800 Supersport, Metallic Honda Monte Carlo blue as on our web site. Caterham wide track suspension, leather seats, Yoko 32's on 13-inch wheels and our handling kit, which is fully adjustable suspension. The car has just been SVA'd but not registered so you will be the first owner with a new reg. It has covered about 500 miles, [on trade plates] and having been built by Gary and myself we can say that is has been put together to the very highest standard and is as new. £19995 ono. If you are interested we could alter bits on the car even converting it to pushrod, six speed or big brakes for a negotiated price. You can talk to me on 01892 540828 / 07946 634021 or Gary on 07801 749054.

Thanks Tiddy for that, you still owe me and Gary a pint though.

Thanks for that mate. Your right I do feel better. Sorry to do this to you but Arch are delivering the first productionised pushrod kit today, when you have driven on it just dampers will not be good enough. Kettles on, donuts are fresh, see you soon.

It has been said many times on this site but could I beg people to be careful what they say on this site. On the Freestyle or Caterham damper thread Tiddy {Simon] said that the AVO / Freestyle dampers failed as was very vment in his criticism. I have tried very hard to contact Tiddy to find out IF they were our units and exactly what the problem was. He has not made contact with me by phone, e-mail or through this site. Can I say the units were not ‘Freestyle dampers ‘ unless he bought them second had from somebody. On a thread long ago I made the point that some spherical joints were not Rose joints, although through out the motorsport world ‘Rose’ is the generic term for all spherical joints. It is so easy for any product to be labelled defective with no chance for the supplier to defend himself. I think AMMO is also having the same problem with the pulleys, and having spoken to Ammo about Duretec and all things engine I personally would be kind of inclined to believe him than the comments we get from other sources, but I have had the pleasure of talking to him, others who read the thread may not have. I have no problem with constructive criticism for instances our adjustable anti-roll bars still have a reputation for breaking. This was when Gary was making them by hand many years ago. We have since outsource the blades to one of the top engineering transmission firms in the country the bars are bent and welded by Arch the blocks have been changed from alli to a special nylon, even the bolts have all been changed. Now perhaps the originals deserved that but we have worked long and hard to improve, so for people to criticise any product that I don’t think we sold is very hard to take. Sorry for the rant but people like Ammo, Gary, and myself are only trying to make the Seven even better, which according to Andy Noble in Autocar the factory can’t do.

Tiddy I have just checked for your phone number, did you buy the dampers from us? As I cant trace an invoice or were they the standard AVO’s? I would like to hear from you even if we did not supply them as every bit of information helps us to develop the product.

Tiddy can you give me a ring 01892 540828 07946 634021. I can get back to Avo and see what the problem was, and if the seal has been altered. We did have another damper go but this was due to the top seal not being locked. The difference in cost is the springs standard sets fully adjustable with springs £395, alloy +120 per set, speherical joints and spacers +£100 per set. Hope this is not advertising but the question was asked.