Thanks gentlemen, I have some quality time in the garage booked over the weekend, as SWMBO won't be here for most of Saturday . I will reinstall the hotter thermostat, and recalibrate of the fan on / off point, luckily I bought a sheet of gasket material, and have cut several thermostat housing gaskets for this exercise. Just as an aside I researched the 2l Vauxhaul motor power, seems it was only 95kw, and that was the JPE car, so the radiator I have is now under specified for the 127kw zetec engine, but of course those figures are at max chat, my cooling problem is manifest at much more mundane power levels. I looked at the Radtec website, nice kit, nice price, depending on which side of the counter you're standing, and a fair few threads in BC about leaking, not what I need down here. So my quest for a resolution continues, there is a company very close to where myself and handbrake will be going for Easter, they make radiators from scratch, they manufactured the oil coolers for the Hawker Hurricane P3551, which was restored to flight in 2000. There will be a visit to see what they can offer. Other problems need addressing also, a bit of the old "flog on rewardless" comes to mind. I did have a bit of a laugh at the words the predictive lexicon wanted to use, oh dear, stay behind after class and learn the nuances of the English language. Regards, Nigel.