Yellow47tc Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 i have my first service (1000 mile) booked and whilst the schedule only includes checks and bolt tightening I am concidering if I should have the oil and filter changed. Otherwise it is not due until 12 months or 6k I believe. Old school would suggest it would be wise to change after the first 1000 miles. Sigma engined self built 270s. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I would.Whilst modern engines dont create the same swarfe as old ones I think its a good idea. I do interim changes (oil changed every 6 months) on our tintops.Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNC Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Old school thinking !! Modern engine modern oil yes to nut and bolt check but I would say no to oil but if it’s for peace of mind go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 While its drained of oil and jacked up, for the sake of £5 and a minute to change the filter, it would be logical too change the filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadsport06 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 On the k series I used mineral oil and on its first service (500 miles) it went on to synthetic. Looks like Caterham view that as not necessary on the more modern sigma. Personally I'd change the oil, costs little and gives you peace of mind. I'm in the same camp as Ian, oil changed on our tintop VW diesels every 6 months. Less than £30 a time, but oil in a turbo diesel has a hard life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNC Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Modern oil s better for the environment it needs less changing lasts longer and is capable of testing to give the condition of the engine if the oil is changed to often you lose the history . Take a look at Ford service intervals ! It's a modern engine not a K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadsport06 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 No argument that oil is so much better now John. I don't think Rover suggested an oil change after 1000 miles on the k series either. I haven't got any data on what is in the oil of a Caterham sigma engine after 1000 miles, and that is why I'd want to change it. Interesting if I look to Ford for their oil service intervals. Looking at the same engine in UK and US I get different change intervals. Someone has asked about getting the oil changed. Not surprised they have two different answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteG Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I change mine every year with Fords own Formula F synthetic oil and their own filter. I only do a couple of thousand every year though. Would not think necessary to change at a thousand miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colindavies56 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 no need to jack it up,long extension through exhaust hole,and mines an S3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Nuts Garage Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Yep, changed my oil n filter on my SV at that time. Usual stuff, smear of oil on the filter seal etc. I had trouble getting the factory fitted filter off, I think they employed a gorilla to put it on! I don't normally jack the car up (too lazy), just a shallow drip tray under the sump and as mentioned, go in underneath with a double extension/socket. I always change the filter when changing the oil to be honest. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim 123 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I did oil and filter on my 270 self build at 1000 miles. It sounds like you are getting your dealer to do the 1,000 miler, if not, I can give you part numbers and sources for the Ford filter, sump washer, and filter removal tool which prevents an awful lot of swearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wodybode Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I also don't think it's necessary to change the oil but you could drain it and examine it for peace of mind and put it back in if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow47tc Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 Thanks for all your thoughts and comments. I have decided to go for an oil and filter change and for caterham to do that while they have it in for the first 1000 mile service. Largely for peace of mind as I have grown up on older engines and I am no expert on modern oil technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR400D Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I think the oil change is worth doing; won't do any harm and cheap enough. Not sure why you having CC do the service though? Especially as you built it yourself, it's a doddle and you'll possibly do it more thoroughly. Part of the reason I have a 7 is so that I can do all the maintenance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I do all my maintenance - I have a tick sheet I complete each year and document any additional stuff I do.I just knocked it up in excel - fills a full A4 page. Let me know if you want a copy. There was one on the old blatchat site - not sure if the checklist migrated over??Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim 123 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Service Schedule list is also available in the Owners Handbook, which can be downloaded from the CC website as a PDF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted November 5, 2017 Member Share Posted November 5, 2017 There was one on the old blatchat site - not sure if the checklist migrated over??Is that Shaun's schedule or something else?Service Schedule list is also available in the Owners Handbook, which can be downloaded from the CC website as a PDF.I have many (? all) of the old versions of the Assembly Guides and Handbooks: just ask.Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 JK,thats the one - I basically took that and amended, adding info like plug type / gap, oil grade, tyre pressures and a few torque wrench settings etc - quick reference stuff.Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Don't forget to add greasing the propshaft UJ nipples onto that list. I don't understand why its not on, given failure of the prop could lead to serious injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted November 6, 2017 Member Share Posted November 6, 2017 Yes.I have mine done while it's up on the lift for the MoT inspection.Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 here is my list....ENGINE CHANGE OIL CHANGE FILTER CLEAN / ADJUST SPARK PLUGS CHANGE SPARK PLUGS (EVERY 3 YEARS) CHECK EXHAUST FOR SECURITY AND LEAKS RENEW CAM BELT (EVERY 5 YEARS) CHECK ENGINE MOUNTINGS FOR SECURITYELECTRICAL CHECK ALTERNATOR BELT - ADJUST/REPLACE AS NECESSARY CHECK OPERATION OF LIGHTS CHECK OPERATION OF HORN CHECK OPERATION OF WINDSCREEN WASHERS & TOP UP BOTTLE CHECK OPERATION OF WIPERS AND CONDITION OF BLADES CHECK HEADLIGHT ALIGNMENT CHECK BATTERY AND EARTH CONNECTIONSCOOLING SYSTEM CHECK COOLANT LEVEL AND TOP UP IF NECESSARY RENEW COOLANT CHECH HEATER, RADIATOR AND HOSES FOR LEAKSBRAKING RENEW BRAKE FLUID (EVERY 2 YEARS) CHECK AND IF NECESSARY TOP UP BREAK FLUID CHECK ALL PADS AND DISCS FOR WEAR STRIP FRONT BRAKES STRIP REAR BRAKES VISUAL CHECK OF BREAK LINES AND HOSES CHECK OPERATION OF BRAKES CHECK OPERATION OF HANDBRAKETRANSMISSION CHECK / ADJUST CLUTCH CABLE CHECK AND TOP UP IF NECESSARY DIFFERENTIAL CHECK AND TOP UP IF NECESSARY GEARBOX CHECK PROP SHAFT UJ's AND GREASE CHECK DRIVE SHAFTS, CV JOINTS AND BOOTSSUSPENSION AND STEERING CHECK ALL METALASTIC BUSHES CHECK UPPER AND LOWER FRONT BALL JOINTS FOR WEAR CHECK TRACK ROD ENDS FOR WEAR CHECK STEERING RACK AND COLUMN FOR WEAR CHECK AND ADJUST FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS CHECK REAR WHEEL BEARINGS CHECK CONDITION OF TYRES REPACK BEARINGS CHECK TYRE PRESSURESMISC CHECK SEATS FOR SECURITY CHECK SEAT BELTS LUBRICATE PEDALS AND LINKAGE CHECK CHASSIS FOR DAMAGE/RUST CHECK FUEL LINES FOR SECURITY AND LEAKS REPLACE FUEL FILTER (EVERY 3 YEARS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM25T Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Curious mix of brakes and breaks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 I have at least 4 cups of tea when working on the car - hadn't spotted that!!The grammar police have been notable by their absence of late so I'm glad someone is upholding the standards! CheersIan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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