AshleyBanks Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 In preperation to take the car out of its hidy hole and attend the rehab meet tonight I put the battery charger on the car yesterday.Just tried starting it and it is dead very dead. Seems now the charger does not even recognise it is attached to a battery. Tried the charger on a spare battery and all the lights light up as expected.Does this mean another battery has dies on me?Should I be doing something to maintain them?Is there a better more reliable option than banner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative paul richards Posted January 14, 2015 Area Representative Share Posted January 14, 2015 Assume you are topping up the battery with water??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted January 14, 2015 Member Share Posted January 14, 2015 What sort of charger? The clever conditioning chargers can be fussy about very flat batteries.With yours I'd top it up (if possible and needed) jumpstart it and then try and charge it or go for a run. Usual precautions. I don't think there's any consensus in previous discussions about the best batteries and why. My 7 is used on roads and for trackdays. It lives on a conditioning charger when in the garage. It has a Powervamp PVR 25 and if I were buying now I'd consider a PVR22 as they are cheaper.Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyBanks Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 I use a CTEK MXS 5.0T Battery Charger with Automatic Temperature Compensation (as it says on the website)tbh no I have checked the water will get some water and ensure the level is good and try the above thanks Paul / Jonathan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative paul richards Posted January 14, 2015 Area Representative Share Posted January 14, 2015 AshleyShould be de-ionised water. Available from most accessory/spares shops. In the past I've also used water which gathers at the bottom of the freezer after de-frosting. I was told this is just as good, but not sure.If you are using a conditioner, the water does tend to evaporate much quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A7 OOH Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Hello AshleyI run with a Banner battery, the car is always hooked up to a CTEK conditioner, and the car always starts on the button. I check the electro-lite level on a monthly basis and do not suffer water loss.My classic MG sits outside under a cover (oh for a double garage) and this is hooked up to a Carcoon conditioner and again the car starts on the button.If your running with a CTEK then unless it is faulty, or your battery is down a few cells then all should be well.As mentioned, top up the battery, give it a full charge with a std battery charger, and then hook up to tye CTEK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS2000 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I bought my 7 second hand in 2010, it had the original banner battery from 2006. Mine has the electrical isolator which I use all the time. I have never used a conditioner. It eventually died last year (8 years old) and I replaced it with another banner. My personal experience of the banner is therefore favourable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonym Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 me too, similar really I think. from 2004 or something, I always felt that removing the cutout key was like putting the battery back on the shelf - and usually has enough life for a start five months later, though by that time the petrol has gone "off" but still starts. p.s. just check for dud cells which happened to someone nearby here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris956 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Just had exactly this ... Thread somewhere ... Not recognised by conditioner. Topped up cells and hey presto , registered and started to charge. Caught it in time before it was unrecoverable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted January 17, 2015 Member Share Posted January 17, 2015 I find plastic Pasteur pipetttes very convenient to top up cells and similar.http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTAwWDUwMA==/z/Nt0AAOxykmZTOuB8/%24_12.JPGIn the past I've also used water which gathers at the bottom of the freezer after de-frosting. I was told this is just as good, but not sure.Water that has evaporated will be fine unless it's been subsequently contaminated. If I had to I'd chip the ice off the top and sides rather than using the meltwater that's run across the internal surfaces.Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted January 17, 2015 Member Share Posted January 17, 2015 If you are using a conditioner, the water does tend to evaporate much quicker.Wouldn't that be due to more more hydrolysis releasing hydrogen and oxygen rather than more evaporation?Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJD Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Quote "If you are using a conditioner, the water does tend to evaporate much quicker"Thanks for pointing that out, I've just checked and had to add some de-ionised water.Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Id just buy a sealed battery like a Varley Redtop and not mess around with battery water and topping up. Im pleased with mine - well as pleased as you can be with something as boring as a battery! Also, having had a spill/leak of acid which trickled through the footwells and marked the aluminium floor (no feet where present fortunately!), I prefer not having a wet battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJD Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Id just buy a sealed battery like a Varley RedtopI don't think there were sealed batteries in 1967 when my car was built Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I don't think there were sealed batteries in 1967 when my car was builtIf your battery dates from 1967 it's probably time to replace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJD Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 The car not the battery .I try to use period looking parts where available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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