Thanks Jim whine is speed dependent and comes and goes with load and speed, worst at 50, although it never really disappears. Going on the throttle or coming off makes it reduce, worst on a steady throttle at 50 on the A2 (which has average speed check) Not gear or rev dependent, pretty certain its the diff and this seems to fit with others experiences of whining at a particular speed. Had the car from 500 miles and its now 2500 and noise has definitely got worse, which suggests diff bedding in rather than bolted in wrong? (Its a bmw titan diff in that diff cage adaptor) the mazda gearbox also rattles when coming off load and on overrun but this isnt so bad, have driven two others with similar characteristics i will take a look at spacers to see if this might be the problem but suspect its a difficult job to replace them, very hard to reach. Sound deadening does appeal because transmission is just so very noisy. This is my third caterham and the one with the worst noise. I wouldnt mind if it was just the engine! (I built a tiger 6 with an xflow in 95 and the noise that made was amazing, noisy doesnt begin to describe it, brilliant)