Morls Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Stuart Taylor built a Pheonix (Like a Striker with a body, or a Fisher Fury) with a Honda SP1 motor. Apparently it felt quicker than a 'Blade but was harder to drive, which is the opposite to how they feel in the bikes. Dan would know better than me, but I think the RGB Regs define classes based on Manufs claimed output, which may put something like an SP1 or 998 in the 'Fast' class against ZX12s, 'Birds and Busas, where they could be 30bhp down at the wheels. Mark Look it's Mavis here and Jubilee 7 here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanB Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 The SP1 is rated at 125bhp which puts it in class B (along with the Fireblades and the ZX9Rs) and not class A with the R1s, Blackbirds, ZX12Rs and Busas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Elizabeth Posted September 14, 2004 Author Share Posted September 14, 2004 Well, 7 months after pondering an R1 engine, the Gixxer is in place. Some pics here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrino Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Ooooh, very nice Nigel! And it was your pesky pondering which made me change from Blade to R1 😬. Have now bought an engine and am waiting to sell my car engine bits before I can afford to progress to the installation phase. STM's cradle approach looks interesting. Current progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Elizabeth Posted September 14, 2004 Author Share Posted September 14, 2004 Yamerham 😬 The good thing about the cradle is that you can fiddle about with the installation position without needing to lift the engine (not that they are heavy). According to Ian we will need to save some money for new pants and trousers too He can spin the rear wheels in 5th in his and after half a season of RGB racing has only just got confident with applying full power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE GILBERT Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Looking good Noger Is that the Nova D/S? it looks absolutely superb. Keep em coming, I for one am really interested in progress. Steve See My Caterham Fireblade Here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Elizabeth Posted September 14, 2004 Author Share Posted September 14, 2004 Yup, Nova sump pan and pump, Extreme Engines tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 looks good noger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisG Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 According to Ian we will need to save some money for new pants and trousers too. He can spin the rear wheels in 5th in his and after half a season of RGB racing has only just got confident with applying full power. Cynics would say it was more likely his wallet that reduced the confidence in applying full power considering the number of engines that went pop when giving it full beans in the RGB a few months ago 😬 Seriously though, they seem fine since being dry sumped, looks a nice install Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrino Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I have just thought of a major flaw in the R1 conversion - the '16 valve' nosecone badge has got to go! I wonder who makes their badges and if they would accept a Photoshop'd one 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Elizabeth Posted September 29, 2004 Author Share Posted September 29, 2004 I was thinking about a getting a "1 litre" nose cone badge made. The birth of the Gixxerham : pics here drivel here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrino Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morls Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Engines that big shouldn't be allowed in a se7en! 919cc should be anough for anyone 😬 Mark Look it's Mavis here and Jubilee 7 here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrino Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 I agree, 998cc contradicts ACBC's philosophy slightly 😬 No 'boat anchor' jibes, ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogvet Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Stuart Taylor Motorsport has a cradle designed for a Susuki 1000cc I believe to fit Caterhams, have a look on his web site. Edited by - dogvet on 29 Sep 2004 16:23:15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrino Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Stuart Taylor Motorsport has a crale designed for a Susuki 1000cc I believe to fit Caterhams, have a look on his web site. Superb - Noger you might be interested in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Elizabeth Posted September 29, 2004 Author Share Posted September 29, 2004 😬 Yes, it is STM's standard GSXR1000 cradle. Hacksaw off the Caterham upper passenger cross member and it all fits very nicely (actualy it fits spookily well) thankyou. Getting the filter/airbox under the bonnet is another story The birth of the Gixxerham : pics here drivel here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_pank Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Nog, sorry I haven't read EVERYTHING in this thread, so if you've already been over this, just ignore me, but I was wondering... If you use a dry sump, is there any reason why the engine can't be canted over as far as you like (ie up to about 60 Degrees) without worrying about the oil? Why did you go for the 1000 instead of the 1300? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dino ferrana Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Isn't hacking a cross member out a bit of a risk? Won't it have stiffness/safety implications? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Elizabeth Posted September 29, 2004 Author Share Posted September 29, 2004 Charlie - Not sure about the technical implications of canting the engine over. But you are rather limited in what you can do tilt wise. It can only really rotate around the optimum line of the propshaft. Can't go any more over towards the passenger side, as the head comes up against the chassis side rail, and this also means the throttle bodies are sticking up more, which causes more problems with getting the filter/airbox under the bonnet. And going towards the driver side makes the engine even taller, as it is angled from sprocket output up to the passenger side. Reasons for going with the 1000 was price, low weight, not *too* much power for my poor Ital Axle, STM have done several before and have the "bits". But mostly, the 'Busa has been done before and I like to be different Dino - very true the chassis is going to Arch to some extra triangulation if required. It may not be, as by using an engine cradle this provides a bit of bracing. Even so I think Arch will have to put some new shorter members in. The birth of the Gixxerham : pics here drivel here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrino Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 I was trying to find out if the JW 'Blade chassis has any extra members to compensate for removal of the large diagonal on the nearside....... I couldn't spot any obvious ones in this shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Walker Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 I don't think it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE GILBERT Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Mine doesn't Mind you, It would be easy to use the engine as a 'stressed member' as in the bikes. The mounts are very nearly in the right place. Having said that I haven't noticed any handling problems 😬 All the best Steve See My Caterham Fireblade Here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrino Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 Well after quizzing several different companies about the fabrication of a mounting solution for my R1 (with quite a wide range of quotes/strategies/enthusiasm/confidence), I have decided to go with Ian Gray's (STM) cradle. Hoping to get the chassis/engine up there in the next few weeks so that I can crack on with lots of other installation bits at Xmas. Noger - Ian says that his new exhaust guy is making some pretty stuff - can't wait to see some pics..... Lobbying Caterham for a new badge.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Elizabeth Posted October 19, 2004 Author Share Posted October 19, 2004 Ian is not talking to me after he spent ages trying to get the propshaft to fit. Might be worth having a word about what the problem was. Good news on the exhaust chap I think my diff was due back this week, so hopefully things might be coming along. Gear linkage was next on the agenda I think. Better get yours up there quick, before he decides Caterhams are too much like hard work The birth of the Gixxerham : pics here drivel here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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