Wow! Thanks all. to answer a few points raised: Thanks Shaun, that's the section I am using, I'm on the right track. Seven Wonders and JP, thanks but mine predates that. Vin is an old style on 5LC 5181 HPRD, so not enough numbers. Jonathan, July 4th 1990 Stephen, good idea, I'll give Rob a shout. 7 wonders, as a Jersey car it isn't on th3 list so doesn't show up. I have my data and details and will go back in the morning. Report back soon.