scottydog Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Finally after fighting with a few electrical gremlins, the Hondaham is finally finished, and I was able to take the first proper test flight. Push the start button and it fires into life, sitting at a constant 900 rpm, oil pressure at around 6.5bar. Into 1st and off we go, instantly I recognised a complete difference from the VHPD, the engine would drive happily, at low revs with no coughing, or misbehaving. Driving around in traffic, the car is now a complete joy to drive, will pull cleanly from 1500rpm, in any gear, pulls away from lights without having to be above 4000rpm, and is a complete pussycat! Then onto a bit of open road, drop 2 cogs and floor it, instntly the bellow from the roller throttles, assaults your ears, you notice a pitch change and the extra push as the VTEC cuts in, and you are pinned to the seat up to the 8500rpm rev limit, with all the shift lights going nuts, into the next cog, and away we go again! 😬 All 240 ponies screaming to be let loose, absolutely brilliant!! Got back from the first 30 miles or so, with a huge grin on my face, the car is so much easier and more rewarding to drive, and the noise is fantastic!! Shame mine won`t be the only one for much longer, as Ian already has 2 more in the pipeline, which should be started very shortly. ☹️ Really pleased I decided to give this engine a try, will be really interesting to see how she goes on circuit! Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 excellent news 😬 its good to see a different install any pics or a write up in LF ?? C7 TOP Powered by Hellier Performance 😬 South Wales AO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottydog Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 Yep, will have some pics sorted shortly, don`t think Ian has updated his site for a while, has been too busy getting it finished. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL FLY Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I have some pics of a Toyota install from the last Pistonheads meet here The engine pictures are near the bottom. Roy. See willfly.net for more info. If you don't spin you ain't trying Happiness is knowing you have just a tad too much power Edited by - WILL FLY on 16 Feb 2006 11:11:45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottydog Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 Looks a neat install! Think thats an SV bodied car, as my engine bay is a lot tighter squeeze than that, we couldnt fit the standard intake plenum, and are using roller throttles, also have a pace dry sump tank wedged in as well. The exhaust runs around the steering column, the radius would have been too tight to do anything else. Has taken a lot of work to get everything to fit in and work together, really glad that its done, can now get on with having fun again!! Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julians Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Which honda engine is it? S2000 or civic type R. From your comment about 240hp I assume s2000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottydog Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 Completely standard civic, albeit for roller throttles and remapped ECU. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyknuckles Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Who is Ian? Will he be offering this as a service? www.R300.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottydog Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 Ian is the owner of clockwisemotion, who deal with tuning bits for type r honda`s, I seem to remember him saying that he did the first honda engined elise, for a friend, quite a few years ago, but never took it any further. My car was given to him as a guinea pig, to see whether he could make this work, although he was certain he could. After 6 months of very hard work and a huge amount of fabrication work, he has finally finished it. It was designed as a conversion, the same as the elise one, I seem to remember him mentioning £9K, for a complete conversion, although it would be worth giving him a call just to check, as I said he has 2 people that have given him orders, and he has the engines and ancillary components waiting. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSL Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Honda, fabulous engineering, unburstable power plants *thumbup* On the down side, I thought they were a bit of an anvil in the weight department, with the associated handling drawbacks *confused* Has it been weighed yet 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Good news, So you bringing it next Thurs then chap Its not the days in your life ..........But the LIFE in your days!! ;0)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottydog Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 Not weighed it as yet. But having removed a lot of the bulky items, i e 60 amp alternator, cast inlet manifold, mega thick steel exhaust manifold, heavy flywheel, etc. and then fitted lightweight alternatives. We have also removed about a ton of excess wiring from the K series loom, most of which was not used 😬 Expecting it to be a tad heavier than the K, but not by a huge amount, will need to get it flat floored, so should know soon. Besides Ian said that if we do a bit of internal work, should be able to get 280bhp, as is completely stock at the moment, and he is developing a 2.5, which in its early stages is pushing over 320bhp! Also would be happy with a slightly heavier engine that I know is not going to let me down, blow HG, fry starter motors etc (not that I am dissilussioned with the K you understand!! 😳) Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottydog Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 Sandy, All going according to plan, should be able to bring it to the next meet. Hoping to get it on the rollers this weekend, so we can make sure the mapping is spot on, and new bigger rad should be here next week. Then its just a case of enjoying it, fingers crossed!! Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSL Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Should of saved you a fair few kilo's then 😬 😬 Fair play to you for having the Knackers to take the plunge, sounds like it has all the makings of a great package *thumbup* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakey Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Nice to see another Japanese virus in a Se7en 😬 Injected with TOYOTA DNA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottydog Posted February 17, 2006 Author Share Posted February 17, 2006 Lakey, How have you been getting on with the Toyota engine?? What sort of power is it developing? and how does it compare on weight with the K, as I understand the Toyota is a very similar engine to the Honda. Got a day at Donno, early Mar, so hoping to take it there and put it through its paces, see how she goes. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannylt Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 With which track day company? Do you have an airbox to evade the noise meter? I know of a Westfield with an S2000 engine, but it retains the standard plenum. Would love to see it in action! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottydog Posted February 17, 2006 Author Share Posted February 17, 2006 I`m one of the main instructors with Goldtrack. As far as I`m aware its a noisy day, which gives us a 120dba limit I think, we have a porsche that comes on the days, that is physically painfull to listen to. Don`t have an airbox as yet, just open roller throttles, but may have to get one if we have problems. Am hoping it goes well, suppose time will tell!! Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannylt Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 If it's the same one, I remember that Porsche from Goldtrack's noisy day there last year - and yes, rather deafening as it goes past with open megaphones! Hopefully I'll be there. Do you know if they have the noise meter on for noisy days so we can find out if we'd manage quiet days? Some bribery possibilities I hope! Noisy days are rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottydog Posted February 17, 2006 Author Share Posted February 17, 2006 Could ask Frank in race control, if he could switch theirs on see where we are at. Should be able to see if we are setting it off. Think most of Goldtrack`s days are noisy this year, apart from the dreaded goodwood, and bedford! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottydog Posted February 17, 2006 Author Share Posted February 17, 2006 Just checked with Melindi, we have not got a noisy Donno until July, its actually 98, which there is no way mine will be under!! Its the Silverstones that are unrestricted D`oh!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannylt Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Bah . I'm hoping my monster RaceCo exhaust is sub-98, but have no airbox yet I'm sure I won't get on either. Put July in my calendar though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottydog Posted February 17, 2006 Author Share Posted February 17, 2006 We have a huge 7.5" silencer on it as well! Its as quiet as a mouse, until you open up the rollers and the VTEC cuts in, then its gets pretty loud, still its a lot quieter than the old VHPD engine!! Might try and have a word with Frank, find out where the noise meters are now, if I can get a few laps it would be better than nothing, failing that will take it to Silverstone international the following week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 While on the US Caterham tour last year, followed a couple of the U.S made Ultralites both with Honda power. They were seriously fast, outdragging a few superbikes here and there which the riders seriously weren't expecting. I know I've only got a crossflow, but often when the will took them, the two just dissapeared from view in front, and on one occasion during an impromptu drag race, Steve's car appeared to pull well in front of a 6+litre Chevy Moroso powered Westfield, also on the tour, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottydog Posted February 17, 2006 Author Share Posted February 17, 2006 Just had a look at the Ultralite web site. Very weird beasts, looks a like a seven that went a bit wrong!! Also shows that the honda engine cannot be that heavy if they get their cars down to 520kg I am running a bit more torque than theirs as well, 171 vs 151, not sure how much difference that would make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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