Strangely Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Does anyone know a fairly definitive account of what a K-Series engine number means? e.g. if it starts with 18K4 is it a 1.8 16V engine? And if it starts with 16K4 then it's a 1.6 16V engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Haven't the foggiest, old fruit - but I guess the man to holler for is Oilyhands (aka DVA - or go to his website and find a direct contact....) Keep BC free and open for ALL. Membership No. 43xx Alcester Racing 7's Equipe - 🙆🏻™ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian P Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Or drop Simon at Caterham an email - straight from the horses mouth, etc... C7 CCL - broom broom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangely Posted December 12, 2003 Author Share Posted December 12, 2003 I know all about DVA (and he knows all about me!), but I'm trying not to bother him too much, so that I can save his time for the *really* difficult questions.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Gregory Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 K series engine numbers were covered here: (www.blatchat.com/T.asp?id=43241) a couple of days ago. HTH Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahatma Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 You're dead right. 16k4 = 1600 cc, 16V engines (4 = 4 valves per cyl) etc Have a look at the these links for Rover engine manuals with identification; http://elise.pinkcore.com/download/download.asp http://www.brooke-kensington.co.uk/misc/Elise%20Service%20Manual%20-%20indexed.pdf Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philwaters Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Is it at all possible for a 1.6 to require the spigot bearing sleeve? If the 16K4 bit means it is a 1.6 then I was under the impression that the sleeve was only needed on a 1,8 crank - and this engine does need one *confused* Phil Waters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Yes Phil , it is possible that a 1600 crank needs a sleeve . My cranks have them . easy to check if it needs it .... the bearing flops into the hole 😬 Lotus 7 Club Speed Champion 2003 South Wales Area Organiser C7 TOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philwaters Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Arr ok, The engine in question is Stangeley's and it needs a sleeve, no doubt. We're just questioning the size now.. it seems it's a 1.6 not a 1.8 *mad* Looks like I'm swapping the sump back off it and bolting the oil filter back on... Still at least we didn't find out after it was in the car. Phil Waters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangely Posted December 12, 2003 Author Share Posted December 12, 2003 Thanks all. Not the answer I wanted, but good to know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 As a double check , you can determine the stroke by placing a pen in the plug hole and turning the crank over by hand to measure the stroke . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Day Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 I was under the impression that the Rover engine number was removed when Caterham modified the block for the LH starter motor mounting. Caterham then stamped their own number on the upper surface of the bearing ladder where it protrudes from under the block mating face on the exhaust side. My engine number is the same as my kit number (1994 car)which reflects the chassis number. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philwaters Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Yes Mick, they do... that was the next job on our list - luckerly our man with the angle grinder couldn't make last night so we did other things... phew. Good tip Dave - thanks. I think we should check that before giving up all hope, but we're not far off. Phil Waters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahatma Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 The engine number is in 2 places I think, on the block and on the bearing ladder (?). The links above have documentation that includes the Rover service manuals and they have the positions of the engine numbers IIRC. Andy EDIT - Sorry, I should read all the posts properly before adding - someone has already said this. Edited by - mahatma on 12 Dec 2003 16:03:23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangely Posted December 15, 2003 Author Share Posted December 15, 2003 Thanks, chaps. The engine that I bought as a 1.8 turned out to be a 1.6. As it happens the seller is acting very well (I think he genuinely believed it to be a 1.8) and is refunding my money. Phew! Just got to find a *real* 1.8 now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordy Posted December 16, 2003 Share Posted December 16, 2003 that happened to me. Bought a 1.8 and it turned out to be a 1.6. But it had sat in the garage for 8 months before I realised. I sold it on as a 1.6. It had me confused for a while too because I had assumed the 1.8 needed a spigot bearing. The crank on this engine looked like the hole was too small to take the spigot bearing. I lost interest in the engine in the end because I envisioned having to remove the crank to have the hole machined to take the spigot bearing. more hassle than I could be bothered with. I'll be very careful buying K series engines in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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