brianjhall31 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Does anyone know if you can buy the Apollo 13 x 6 Alloy wheels direct from the "manufacturer". Clearly Caterham and Demon Tweeks have to add their markups so I'm just trying to reduce any unnecessary costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K7 VCT Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Made by team dynamics i guess, not a chance of direct selling i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K7 VCT Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Made by team dynamics i guess, not a chance of direct selling i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 No but if your looking for quality wheels we have club deal with Revolution and Warren there is excellent to deal with, take a look on their website.https://revolutionwheels.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team Shortshift Posted May 29, 2020 Leadership Team Share Posted May 29, 2020 And don't forget that the Club has a discount deal ("up to 10%") on purchases from Demon Tweeks.Drop an email to Dave Kimberley in their sales team (davek@demon-tweeks.co.uk) confirming what you want to buy and that you are a Club member, and he will mail you back a price and an invoice in case you decide to go ahead.Amazes me that more people don't know about this deal for Club members.(Including myself, until three weeks ago when I found out! )!James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Think Dave has moved roles and our club is now looked after by John Harris (this is what I was told a few weks back) JohnH@demon-tweeks.co.ukDiscount is up to 10% or free shipping, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianjhall31 Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 Thanks guys! You are probably already aware that my request is driven by the lack of CR500 tyres in the future and the recommended replacement (Avon ZZS) not being made in the 15 inch size to the exact same width and profile. The closest (currently I have 195/45R15) is 195/50R15 which has an increase in the overall diameter by 1.39 inch and a quick check by eye shows me I do not have 0.695 inch (the physical increase in the radius) clearance under my front cycle wings!Hence the move to 13 inch wheels (which appears from the many posts elsewhere on these forums) to be the preferred choice anyway.The required recalibration of the speedo and ride height/geometry adjustments don't concern me as they are just engineering.My real concern is making the correct "capital expenditure" decision for the new wheels. Maybe it is time for the Club to commission a task team to create an evolution chart and database where the inquirer just enters their current wheel and tyre combination and is presented with the recommended products which are currently available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR400D Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Can’t help with the wheels but I’m not sure of your calculations. Going from 45 to 50 AR on a 195 tyre will increase the height of the tyre by 9.75mm, less than 0.4”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianjhall31 Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 Hi Scott,I was using Avon Tyres sizing charts. CR500 Dia 21.69 inch, ZZS Dia 23.08 inch for the 15 inch tyres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR400D Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Fair enough. The ZZS must be quite a bit bigger casing than the CR in the same nominal size.i still have both types of tyre in the garage, I think I’ll see how close each is to the nominal size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianjhall31 Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 Thanks Scott, Like all things Caterham, what appears to be a simple upgrade opens up a whole can of worms. All I want is to not make a retrograde step.What it does show is there was no coordination between the existing product CR500 users needs and the products for the future cars and buyers. I look forward to the day when we can re-establish our connections with Caterham Cars and bring the collective knowledge of L7C members to help all of the owners via official advice and publications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnockoff Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Before you do something as drastic as buying four new wheels and tyres, is there any way you can try a ZZS on your car. I understand that although the section is now '50' as opposed to '45' the shape of the tyre is different and may well fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vine Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 ...is there any way you can try a ZZS on your car. I understand that although the section is now '50' as opposed to '45' the shape of the tyre is different and may well fit. Good advice. That was exactly my experience when I went from 195/45-15 CR500 to 195/50-15 ZZS. As you can see, the ZZS just fits:JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Don't assume that the static clearance remains constant though, it is possible these may kiss when enjoying a few corners as the tyres move laterally, 13's offer more clearance and even then they have been known to kiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vine Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 A good point, Neil. Happily, no witness marks so far!JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 You need to try harder John.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vine Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevehS3 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Demon Tweaks regularly have a discount on their eBay site. I paid £521.60 for a set of four 13 x 6 in silver just over 2 years ago.Recal of the speedo is an easy job and it will probably be more accurate than it is now, or at least mine is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elie boone Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 StevehS3 Revolution are cheaper even without discount and they also have ML style wheels but the ML is only in Ford spec.clearance prices here : https://revolutionwheels.com/wheel-clearance-sale/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Geoff Brown Posted June 1, 2020 Area Representative Share Posted June 1, 2020 All the club deals are there just waiting. Just click on the logo on the home page! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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