zetec Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Ive got an idea but need a price to fit these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Fowler Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Try Andy at PGM. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugene Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Uncle Albert of course!!! The best for all 7 stuff, especially Zetecs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zetec Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 Do you know how much uncle Albert would charge for this?? Sorry I couldn't make le bog do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugene Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 If you ask the question at the 'other place' I know he'll answer 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Lowe Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Craig YHM Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Phil B Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Craig, Which cams are you going to fit? I've got the Racekine 200s which you can time up using the standard Ford setting tool. The only fun and games is measuring clearances and selecting new shims, or are you running a silvertop? Phil B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zetec Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 No, an 1800 blacktop. I changed the cams in the silvertop & thats kinda easy but blacktops use shims & solid lifters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 If your using Kent or Piper and assuming the valve clearances are currently correct they will be a straight swap as the base circles are ground to give the correct clearances based on the OE ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Lowe Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Quoting 7 wonders of the world: If your using Kent or Piper and assuming the valve clearances are currently correct they will be a straight swap as the base circles are ground to give the correct clearances based on the OE ones. I fitted Kent (Raceline 200) cams to a brand view 2L Blacktop and the clearances were way way out, nearly all being much tighter and I had to get 11 re ground. Quoting Phil B: Craig, Which cams are you going to fit? I've got the Racekine 200s which you can time up using the standard Ford setting tool. The only fun and games is measuring clearances and selecting new shims, or are you running a silvertop? As mine were all too thick I had them ground down by an engineering company who have a magnetic grinder, not sure if it was cheaper than buying new ones but it allowed me to get them to the exact tollorences. To set the valve timing, get number 1 at TDC with a dial gauge, then get the cams in position and slide a length of 4mm angle or iron bar though the rear cam slots to lock the cams in position. As always Craig, you have my number if I can be of assistance. Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zetec Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 Top man Guy- i shall be having beer & chat with you before any purchase is made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Lowe Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Forgot to say, that the 4mm bar will slide nicely on the top edge of the head into the locking slots when the cams are in the correct position Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil B Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Hi Craig, I had the same situation as Guy, but I bought new shims (6 I think, as you can swap them around) from my local Ford dealer. As I grew up rebuilding Hillman Imp engines, swapping shims around to get the valve clearances right is no big deal. All you have to remember is to make sure that the crank is rotated away from TDC as you check each valve clearance to avoid any problems. Then when you are all ready to time up, set the cams to their TDC position and carefully rotate the crank back to TDC. I have the cam setting tool and TDC pin for the Blacktop if you want to borrow them (I'm in Horsham) Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Guy, Assuming the replacement cams are more performance oriented then the OE timing slots with the locking bar stands a very good chance of being way out - these should be clocked in to establish running clearances etc and then adjusted on the rollers to optimise performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Lowe Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Quoting 7 wonders of the world: Guy, Assuming the replacement cams are more performance oriented then the OE timing slots with the locking bar stands a very good chance of being way out - these should be clocked in to establish running clearances etc and then adjusted on the rollers to optimise performance. Not sure I understand your question as I do not have verniers fitted, just standard pulleys. Fitting high performance cams is exactly the same as fitting standard OE ones. At the opposite end of the cams to the pulley, your see a slot in the end of the cams (this slot is exactly the same on Standard and Kent/Piper cams). With the bolts on both cam pulleys loose, line the slots up insert a locking bar which locks both the cams together and the bar sits flat on the face of the head, the bar will only go in when the cams are BOTH in the correct position, set No.1 to TDC with a dial gauge, make sure the engine is still at TDC, then tighten both the cam pulley bolts and remove locking tool. job done The only way I would ever entertain adjusting individual cam timing is if I had verniers fitted. Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birkin S3 ZA. Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I have timed the zetec using the standard pulleys owners to tight to splash out but as Guy pointed out its a pain. I always use the slots even with vernier pulleys to get them very close and then time them properly. Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Hi Guy, There's no point at all in investing in performance cams and then failing to time them in correctly for the individual engine - this makes no sense at all. Even the timing figures given by the manufacturers are again only a guide - Kent / Piper / Newman / Cosworth etc cannot know what every single engine requires are there are simply too many variables, in the same way every engine map is subtly different. Why not fit verniers and time to a mid point after checking max / min clearances and then adjust on the rollers prior to final mapping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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