Garth Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Drove my wife's EOS today and the clutch was 'juddery' on take off (no discernible shudder between other gears), but after a few miles and gear changes the shuddering disappeared. Still under warranty so would want to get VW to look at it - any ideas what might be causing it? 15,000 miles and almost 3 years old Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydragon Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Just a guess, but the clutch may have become contaminated with oil due to a leaky oil seal. I'd get garage to look at it asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheds Moderator Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 You have a warranty, use it. Clutch judder can be a warped plate or more usually contamionation. If the contamination isn't too bad then after a bit of use it smooths out. The truth is though that it doesn't really go away, it just smears about. If you have a proper leak it's not going to heal up. It's dealer time and you will have the inestimable joy of dealing with VW service and after sales. Lucky you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stationary M25 Traveller Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Is it a diesel ? Maybe dual mass flywheel failing ? As above .... warranty time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john aston Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 It is almost certainly the dual mass flywheel- this has happened to my last three VAG turbo diesel cars. Only apparent to begin with when cold and especially when reversing up a slope,gets progressively worse to the extent that even a VW dealer will admit something is wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garth Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share Posted May 27, 2011 Thanks for the responses - it is a diesel - not sure what a dual mass flywheel is, but I guess I am about to find out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeljclark Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Having suffered a Dual Mass Flywheel (DMF) failure on my X-Type Diesel I can tell you that: I only had 53k miles on the X (6 years old) It cost £1900 to have put right at the Main Jag Dealers - 8hrs worth of work Get it booked in for some TLC "quick, quick, now, now" (as my South African employers would say) Ford, Pug, VW and a few others all use the same DMF, some Ford/Jag owners have replaced the DMF with one a "normal" clutch/fly wheel from a Transit........... Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myothercarsa2cv Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Get it replaced with a normal flywheel and clutch if you can DMF's suck almost as bad as run-flats... There's another can of worms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stationary M25 Traveller Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 The industry is moving away from DMF, and achieving the same results with electronic engine management apparently. The DMF reduces vibration when drivers pull away at idle, which diesels are torquey enough to manage, but it needs a few revs to make it smoother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeljclark Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Quoting myothercarsa2cv: Get it replaced with a normal flywheel and clutch if you can DMF's suck almost as bad as run-flats... There's another can of worms I suspect the X will be being chopped in for a Skoda Yeti next year - SWMBO thinks the X (Estate) is too "Big" (she means long really - the Yeti is 50cm shorter....), so I said OK: I get to choose the "toys" on the Yeti 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheds Moderator Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 £1900? For a repair F***ing spiders! I can get a nice car for that. Maybe not an X type but bloody hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garth Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share Posted May 27, 2011 It is booked in! The trick is going to be getting VW to accept there is a problem. It took 2 years of fighting with Audi before they accepted there was a problem with the multitronic gearbox on our A6! thanks for the comments Edited by - Garth on 27 May 2011 11:42:44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheds Moderator Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Hang on, you've had trouble with VAG warranty repair before, so you went out and bought another new or nearly new VAG motor car. Right. Round here there's a phrase for that kind of behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myothercarsa2cv Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 I could respond with something crude about every man loving VAG, but I won't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Judder (when cold on pull away) = dual mass flywheel problems. All VW/Audi/Seat diesels use DM flywheels. I'm on my third Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garth Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 Car been with VW for a couple of days and they can find 'no fault' which I am not surprised about given my previous experience with them. Warranty runs out in 4 weeks. Have written to them about the problem so it is on record! Anything else I could do at this stage?? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheds Moderator Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Get round there, chuck your teddies out of the pram and demand that the service manager comes out in the car with you until you have persuaded him that there is a problem. DO NOT take no for an answer, I have experience of VAG "service" or lack of it and I know they will take every opportunity to duck this issue until it's out of warranty and then swear black is white if it fails in 5 weeks time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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