The Pikey Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 Well that's a crock of **** for a start as you must know something as you built the Engine STOP running yourself down I was serious! Bolting the engine together was dead easy, just read the book and asked the right people plenty of questions. When things go wrong like the engine don't start cos I got the cams 180 deg out because I didn't get the BTDC and ATDC right or the oil pressure is not what other threads state then I really am stuck and because I really really really do "know nothing" Give me a birds nest of wiring and you won't find me asking any question though.. If blatchat wasn't around then I would not be building non standard Caterhams. I even termed my Busa Caterham as "the Caterham Blatchat built" ! jason Edited by - Jason Fletcher on 4 Feb 2011 23:00:05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendennis Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Yes I know, but sorry creating a resistance (back pressure) will affect the efficiency of the pump. Doesn't really matter where a resistance is, whether it's on the suction or discharge side it will have an effect on the pump efficiency. Also, Laminova's are not the most efficient method of dissipating heat from oil. In fact in this case it is heating Jason's oil which would also reduce the pressure. Want to rent an 18th century Farmhouse in Rural Somerset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pikey Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 Ian Doesn't the raceline pump have two pumps in one? One for the engine and one for the scavenge which sends it through the Lam? If thats how it works then I can't see how it pushing the oil through the lam will reduce the O.P. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 How can the back pressure you refer to in the scavenge circuit caused by the laminova effect main oil gallery pressure? - the ciruits are totally seperate. Agree that laminova are no the most effective method but are pretty good at certain temps, yes they are a full 2 way heat exchange offering heating of cold oil and cooling of hot oil, though as I said it's highly unlikely the oil temp has even topped 100 degrees and even base mineral oil will handle that. Too young to be old ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pikey Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 in this case it is heating Jason's oil Only to 82 deg and also stops it going higher. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnty Lyons Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 There are in effect two separate pumps.... Most Laminovas are fitted in the return cct to the dry sump tank as is Jasons It WILL have NO effect on oil pressure. Personally I think they are a great device promoting faster warm up and keeping oil temp within bounds and very close to water temp. I run a 1900 K 240BHP with 8K rev limit on a Dry sump with a Laminova It gives me no bother whatsoever whether In Death Valley USA or on Track changing drivers and constant use for up to 4 hrs. My oil pressure drops very low on tick over on full 5w 40 synth But could go to 3 figures when cold if I accidentally pushed the revs too High. With nearly 7 ltrs of oil in a huge tank I am very glad for the quicker warm up I get with the Laminova. Old enough to know better Senile enough not to care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendennis Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Yep sorry just realised how Jason has it plumbed. I agree now Still hate Laminovas 😬 Want to rent an 18th century Farmhouse in Rural Somerset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Glad that's sorted I was starting to question my own sanity 😬 Too young to be old ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendennis Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Been drinking Also hate type 9's 😬 Want to rent an 18th century Farmhouse in Rural Somerset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racing Snake Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I know where i am going to stick my Laminova in a minute Mad Hatter The Dura Mentalist 😬 Carl @ Penn 7's Caution - May Contain Nuts ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezky Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I thought it was going between the radiator and the engine.......oh, I see now penn7's pesky Zetec 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racing Snake Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Pesky its that Pendennis bloke again after a couple of shandys Mad Hatter The Dura Mentalist 😬 Carl @ Penn 7's Caution - May Contain Nuts ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Reeves Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 at the risk of.....what is a Laminova....it just appeared in this very techy thread and I have no idea what it is, technically challenged as I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racing Snake Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Its a fluid to fluid heat exchanger Google it The idea is to get the engine up to temp by heating the oil with the water, then pegging the oil temp to the water temp Add a big radiator and bingo No more Duratecs running cool and fast warm up Oil temp is always slower to warm up that the water, not what you want as it increases engine wear And if the laminova is fitted in the return pipe to the ds tank the oil flow is not restricted at all 😶🌫️ Mad Hatter The Dura Mentalist 😬 Carl @ Penn 7's Caution - May Contain Nuts ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racing Snake Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Laminova info here Mad Hatter The Dura Mentalist 😬 Carl @ Penn 7's Caution - May Contain Nuts ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezky Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I must admit that Laminova thingy seems a good idea. Now I have a oil temperature gauge, it surprised me how long the oil takes to heat up penn7's pesky Zetec 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racing Snake Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Pesky its a must in my book Think Automotive supply the C43 Laminova in 3 sizes The middle one will suit you best Just let them know what connections you want to use Mad Hatter The Dura Mentalist 😬 Carl @ Penn 7's Caution - May Contain Nuts ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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