Scott, I'm not sure I follow. I'm not suggesting anything to anyone. I've always been fixing the shortcomings or designs flaws on Caterhams myself, this one is no exception. I needed a solution for my engine overcooling issues now, not in an uncertain future. We do think our two approaches will yield a usable result and I have no issues whatsoever talking to CC and show them everything I've done - it is very straight forward. I would like to thank Mark for sparking this debate. It has been a discussion I have thoroughly enjoyed.