C7WHO Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Is there any verification of an exemption from the full CAT emissions test in the new MOT for sevens built and registered post 2001, but carrying engines (such as my 1999 Fireblade unit 919cc) that pre-date the build date rule. I have seen a statement - http://www.bobmckay.co.uk/emission.html - that says "Kit cars and amateur built vehicles are regarded as pre 1st August 1975 vehicles for the purposes of MOT emissions testing and are subject to a visual check only." *eek*As a result, I hope to be able to produce documentation to the MOT test station that exempts my vehicle from the current strigent emissions test. Does that mean that any home-built sevens are exempt? Any bike-engined owners out there that can assist? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxseven Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Rob, I about to start the build of a Firebalde 7. I see your in Hampshire, so am I. Where abouts are you? Simon Caterham Fireblade here Edited by - Manxseven on 16 Mar 2006 12:23:57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Brother Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I have seen a statement - http://www.bobmckay.co.uk/emission.html - that says "Kit cars and amateur built vehicles are regarded as pre 1st August 1975 vehicles for the purposes of MOT emissions testing and are subject to a visual check only." I think that used to be the case before the new electronic MOT system was introduced. My car only ever had a visual check but at the last MOT (with the new system) it had to be tested to complete the MOT It passed easily as I think the emission values it was tested to were those in use in 1975. As to old engine in new(er) cars, they should test to the age of the engine. The manual says...... Vehicles fitted with a different engine Test according to which is older, engine or vehicle. e.g. A 1995 car fitted with a 1991 engine (of whatever make), test to 1991 standards for emission purposes. Note: The onus is on the vehicle presenterto prove engine age. Info from here Hope this helps Steve SE7EN-UP! Incorporating the Caterham Links Database Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C7WHO Posted March 16, 2006 Author Share Posted March 16, 2006 Simon - thanks for your post - see my email to you. Steve (Se7en Up) - Thanks for the link. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxseven Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 as a follow-on, hope Rob you don't mind me using your thread, I am about to start a build of a Fireblade 7. Chassis is dated 2002. It has never been road registered (it was built for hillclimbing). The Firebalde engine I have is a year 1995 model. Engine is complete with Engine number so i can prove it's age. It will take me a year or two 😳 to get it built. So, when it comes to SVA, I presume it will be issued with a Q plate ☹️, does this have a knock-on, as to what the emissions test will be?? I hope that as a 1995 engine, it will tested to the rules for a 1995 engine. Can anybody advise me please. Simon Caterham Fireblade here Edited by - Manxseven on 16 Mar 2006 12:43:17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgrigsby Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Hmm I could be wrong but if you get a Q plate you may get away with even earlier emissions, my 1992 Q plate is tested on 1974 emissions even though I have a 2005 Duratec in it 😬 Rob G www.SpeedySeven.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C7WHO Posted March 16, 2006 Author Share Posted March 16, 2006 Going back to my original thread ... So there are 2 possible paths to exemption: 1. "kit cars are regarded as pre 1st August 1975 cars and are subject to a visual check only..." or 2. The age of the engine will determine what type of emissions standard will be applied... Does anyone have definitive guidance? Ta Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 try here and here and here White road legal 2.0 HPC VX race car 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C7WHO Posted March 16, 2006 Author Share Posted March 16, 2006 Thanks Andy - the flowchart is excellent. i think I will go and see a friendly (!) MOT tester and try it out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casbar Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I have a ditty, which basically says, that any car kit built or otherwise, which is registered after Aug 1998, is subject to full emissions test. Only difference if the engine is older than 1998. This works for me, as I have a R Reg K series, which never had a cat etc, and so far I have had no issues with emissions. If you have a 1999 engine in a 2001 chassis, you may have a prob 😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 C7WHO, you don't need a friendly MOT station, they just need to follow the rules & flow chart. My 'friendly' station were fine until the computer system installed. Then they failed me on emmissions without needing a CAT. I took the fail certificate back along with the flow chart and he immediatly wrote out a pass MOT. Where are you based as I'll point you to where I go? Cheers, Andy White road legal 2.0 HPC VX race car 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C7WHO Posted March 16, 2006 Author Share Posted March 16, 2006 Hi Andy i just sent you a mail. Me in Winch too. 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinwhitcher Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 i'm in Romsey Martin MW 51 CAT Superlight No.171 now known as:Superlight DVA 207 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Mail back atch ya Rob. White road legal 2.0 HPC VX race car 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atinod Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Simon, YHM James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Carmichael Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Definitive info posted here: http://7faq.com/owbase/ow.asp?EmissionsAndTheMOT%5FTest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE GILBERT Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 My Fireblade V5 has no details whatsoever regarding emissions. How do you know the level it was tested at at the time of SVA? I have no other documentation. I was thinking of 'obtaining' a letter from Honda that says my 98 engine is a 94. Who the hell would ever know the diference? Steve See My Caterham Fireblade Here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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