Wayne Stambaugh Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I’m working on a 1986 Caterham BDR. Attached are pictures of the bracket for the pedals to pivot on and the master cylinders to attach to. The car originally came with a cable operated clutch but I’m changing it to a hydraulic release bearing. If you notice, one of the tabs where the clutch master cylinder should mount has been cut off. Does anyone have a bracket like this or know of where I can get one. I thought about welding a piece on but this metal doesn’t look like a good alloy to weld. I can try that as a last resort but I thought I would try to find one first. Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM25T Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 As always, try sales@redlinecomponents.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Kay Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) 5 hours ago, Wayne Stambaugh said: I thought about welding a piece on but this metal doesn’t look like a good alloy to weld. I can try that as a last resort but I thought I would try to find one first. How about fabricating an L-shaped bracket that picks up on two good holes and provides a fourth? With appropriate variations in thickness it would then all bolt up in compression. But is there anything that suggests why the tab was removed? Jonathan Edited March 8 by Jonathan Kay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_w Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I have one somewhere in my workshop, I can dig it out this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Stambaugh Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 3 hours ago, Jonathan Kay said: How about fabricating an L-shaped bracket that picks up on two good holes and provides a fourth? With appropriate variations in thickness it would then all bolt up in compression. But is there anything that suggests why the tab was removed? Jonathan Hey Jonathan! Thanks for your response. At first I thought that it would be possible to do that. After investigation it appears the cross section of the material in that area would probably weaken considerably if I tried that. I do have full capability of making a completely new one but it will require a good bit of time and I thought if I could find one I would buy it instead. Like you, I’m baffled as to where this tab was cut off. My car was never really finished and only has 31 miles on it so I can’t imagine why it got cut off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Stambaugh Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, paul_w said: I have one somewhere in my workshop, I can dig it out this weekend. Paul, please let me know if you find something! This would really be a time saver for me. Thanks for your response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Stambaugh Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 3 hours ago, SM25T said: As always, try sales@redlinecomponents.co.uk I’ll give them a try, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I helped Tazio of this parish recommission a 1985 LA crossflow and the bracket was similarly altered so I think a factory mod. Any distinguishing marks / casting numbers on the bracket to type into google? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I found an old for sale advert linked to Mike Brotherwoods Lotus website, but part no longer there - maybe worth an email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_h Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) I think it might be a Ford 100e pedal bracket. https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ford-100e-lotus-brake-master-cylinder-247133406 Not that it helps you find one but it might let you broaden your search Edited March 8 by simon_h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Part no is 100E 2471. this is useful….. https://www.7-dna.com/spannering-2/lotus-7-parts-comparison-list-last-revision-1015.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerobod - near CYYC Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 9 minutes ago, Wrightpayne said: Part no is 100E 2471. this is useful….. https://www.7-dna.com/spannering-2/lotus-7-parts-comparison-list-last-revision-1015.html Looks like the hacksaw mod is appropriate as it says "Pedal Bracket - Later Cars -------- Ford 100E 2471 with one side removed". Assume the use of a clutch cable required that to be done, as opposed to being used for a slave cylinder mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Riches Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Hi Wayne, I have just had a look at this bracket on my 1982 Caterham, and it is as yours is, but the saw marks have been tidied up, possibly the one you have was original on a Ford, and cut down to replicate the Caterham item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_w Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Hi Wayne - I'm sorry, but life has got in the way and I haven't been able to get to the workshop, hopefully this weekend. It is indeed a Ford 100E part and you can sometimes get them second-hand from old Ford specialists, though I think the cross bar piece might be different - mine doesn't have that fitted so you'd need to swap it across from yours. Mike Brotherwood does have one listed on his For Sale page so you could give him a call if you're in big hurry http://www.mikebrotherwood.com/ForSale.html though as I say I should be able to get down to my workshop this weekend. Last one I saw for sale was £125 mind you, so I think I'd want £100 for mine if that doesn't scare you off... Cheers Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Stambaugh Posted March 22 Author Share Posted March 22 Thanks everyone for you responses. I did contact Redline and Chris has the part and it’s 125 lbs. I’m in the US and I’m not sure how to get the real pounds sterling symbol to type. Anyway he has it, I ordered it and hopefully that resolves my problem. It’s good to hear that a lot of you saw the same mod on this bracket during that time period. I also checked with Chris on a lowered left side floor pan. I’m still fighting to get more room for my left leg while lifting it to put it on the clutch pedal. My leg just about 3’ or 4” above the knee makes contact with the bottom edge of the panel making it difficult to get my foot up on the clutch pedal. I know I could have fabricated one but this will speed things up and eliminate questions. I still have a ways to go but I’m getting there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Kay Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 10 minutes ago, Wayne Stambaugh said: ... I’m not sure how to get the real pounds sterling symbol to type. But I liked the workaround. : - ) Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM25T Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Or use GBP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerobod - near CYYC Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Or Google “pounds sterling symbol” and copy and paste the £ into the message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Stambaugh Posted March 22 Author Share Posted March 22 10 hours ago, Jonathan Kay said: But I liked the workaround. : - ) Jonathan Thanks Jonathan, as you can imagine, we don’t have much need for the symbol here in the US but working on a Caterham it’s a necessity to know. I truly appreciate your help with this. £ £ £ Thanks Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Stambaugh Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 I ordered the brake pedal/master cylinder bracket from Chris at Redline along with a lowered left side floor pan for my car. Both arrived quite quickly. Very happy with their service and their parts. He will be my go to guy from now one. Great folks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCol Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Minty is a top bloke… he once delivered some bits to a nearby workshop where my car and I were *before* I even realised I’d need the parts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Stambaugh Posted March 29 Author Share Posted March 29 Checked the floor pan last nigh. Unfortunately the floor pan doesn’t fit. I’m finding out that a 1986 S3 Caterham with DeDion is an odd ball.It was worth a try but it looks like I’ll be engineering my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_h Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 43 minutes ago, Wayne Stambaugh said: Checked the floor pan last nigh. Unfortunately the floor pan doesn’t fit. I’m finding out that a 1986 S3 Caterham with DeDion is an odd ball.It was worth a try but it looks like I’ll be engineering my own. Is it not that the lowered floors are for the later 96 on chassis? Didn’t think lowered floors were a thing back when the tunnel was the curved ally type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Stambaugh Posted March 29 Author Share Posted March 29 9 hours ago, simon_h said: Is it not that the lowered floors are for the later 96 on chassis? Didn’t think lowered floors were a thing back when the tunnel was the curved ally type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Stambaugh Posted March 29 Author Share Posted March 29 Just now, Wayne Stambaugh said: This is the label on the pan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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