Member Jonathan Kay Posted September 3, 2023 Member Share Posted September 3, 2023 What gear do you think it is in?Cable or hydraulic clutch operation?Do you need assistance?Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Golf Juliet Tango Posted September 3, 2023 Area Representative Share Posted September 3, 2023 Clutch is the moist likely issue. Are you out on the road? If so, bearing in mind it is dark, I'd just get it & you recovered by AA/RAC/o7Green Flag/Other recovery and sort it out over the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbbo Posted September 3, 2023 Author Share Posted September 3, 2023 Cars a 2009 roadsport I have got the car home via AA towing it.I can select all the gears but the car has No drive to the back wheels, the clutch is hydraulic the pedal pressure is there and no loss of fluid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbbo Posted September 3, 2023 Author Share Posted September 3, 2023 Cars a 2009 roadsport I have got the car home via AA towing it.I can select all the gears but the car has No drive to the back wheels, the clutch is hydraulic the pedal pressure is there and no loss of fluid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbbo Posted September 3, 2023 Author Share Posted September 3, 2023 Cars a 2009 roadsport I have got the car home via AA towing it.I can select all the gears but the car has No drive to the back wheels, the clutch is hydraulic the pedal pressure is there and no loss of fluid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACFowles Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Is the propshaft rotating normally when in gear? Could narrow down the issue to being the gearbox end or the diff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vine Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Prime suspect would be the clutch. Did the pedal position rise suddenly? If so, the driven plate may have shed its friction material.JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbbo Posted September 4, 2023 Author Share Posted September 4, 2023 Just got up I'll have a look soon as I've had my coffee lolthere was no noise from anywhere just like being in neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vine Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 #7: Good question.You say you can select all the gears. Is that with the engine running? Do you have to dip the clutch to select a gear? Does the clutch pedal operate as normal (bite point, rest position)? When the drive failed, were there any unusual noises from the gearbox or diff areas?(Crossed post!)JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbbo Posted September 4, 2023 Author Share Posted September 4, 2023 Nothing noticeable happened and no previous indications whatsoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colindavies56 Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 What did the AA man think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbbo Posted September 4, 2023 Author Share Posted September 4, 2023 I've just checked out car as requested, I can go through the gears without depressing the clutch and there is no prop shaft noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team Andrew 21 Edney Posted September 4, 2023 Leadership Team Share Posted September 4, 2023 If you roll the car backwards or forwards on the ground, does the propshaft turn?If you jack up both rear wheels I think you can check the diff is working by turning one wheel by hand (to see if the other wheel rotates). With both wheels off the ground and the engine running, can you try putting the car in each of the gears (including reverse) to see if the propshaft turns?Best bet would be to see if any of your local area members are able to pop by to give you a hand / second opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vine Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 #13 Thanks for the feedback. I'm assuming the engine was running? If so, was the propshaft turning (ref #14)? If it was, the problems lies with the diff (unlikely, I'd think, given the lack of noise). If it wasn't, the problem is in clutch or gearbox.At the moment, my money's on the clutch, and specifically the driven (pressure) plate. It's not unknown for the plate to lose some/all of its friction lining. That very thing happened to me a few years ago in the middle of France. JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beagler Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Jack rear of car and put on axle stands, run engine, select gear and get someone to see if prop shaft and any drive shafts are turning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vine Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 #16: Is that the same as #14?JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted September 6, 2023 Member Share Posted September 6, 2023 With the rear wheels off the ground I'd start by exploring what turns what with the engine OFF.Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted September 6, 2023 Leadership Team Share Posted September 6, 2023 IMHO it's a not a great test to lift the rear wheels off the ground to check for drive, even with damage to the drive-train there can be enough drag to rotate unloaded wheels yet still not drive the car normally. As has already been suggested, the first check absolutely needs to be whether the propshaft is rotating when drive is selected, this will determine whether the problem is with the clutch / gearbox or with the diff. Until this test has been done it's impossible to know where to start. Draw a chalk line on the prop, apply the handbrake, chock the front wheels, select a gear and slowly let the clutch out. It's easy enough to have someone else use a mirror and a torch to see whether the prop is rotating without needing to get under the car - that's why a chalk line helps. Other methods are of course available.Some years ago I had a Landrover Freelander strip the splines on a gearbox shaft causing the same symptoms, it's not always clutch although that's where my bet would be. Check for prop rotation first though.Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vine Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 #19: As has already been suggested, the first check absolutely needs to be whether the propshaft is rotating when drive is selected...Agree entirely. Perhaps the OP can be persuaded to do this test and report the result?JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beagler Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Axle stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted September 6, 2023 Leadership Team Share Posted September 6, 2023 Are you selling some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beagler Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Think we are all saying the same thing. The Op should be able to determine now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beagler Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Are you buying.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACFowles Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 #19 et al.Exactly. On different occasions I've lost drive from spline failure in the diff, failed clutch and failed gearbox (not on a Caterham I may add). Get the car on stands, test and observe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldAndrewE Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Have you managed to sort this yet?Edit: not a reply to #25, a question to the OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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