Guest Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Time to replace tyres and was thinking of ZZR's in place of my worn AO48's. I've heard they're particularly dodgy in the wet and whilst my car is used mainly on sunny sundays and the occaisional track day, you never know how the weather can catch you out. A viable option? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted June 5, 2014 Leadership Team Share Posted June 5, 2014 I've just moved from 48's to ZZR's and think they're brilliant I didn't think I'd notice the tyres being less weight but it's changed the feel of the car quite a bit. Not been caught out in the rain yet ..... Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cskip Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I am running 48's as my road tyre and ZZRs as my track tyre. I have run both tyres on the track in the wet and the ZZRs were a revelation, so much more grip. As a result I am considering ditching the 48s and getting a set of ZZRs for the road as well as the track. Caveats: My 48s have loads of tread, but are old (date code 2005) so are like wood. My ZZrs are the supersoft version. So the comparison isn't very fair. 😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark w Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I have ZZRs on my new car and they have far more grip than the Cr500s i had before. As my wife said " theres not much tread on those tyres " so wet weather performance isn't going to be great .T That said it drove a CC demonstrator ( 620R ) in the wet/ damp at Silverstone and they weren't completely useless . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 If you had a set of race tyres for the wet they'd be the softest compound you could get. Granted they'd have more cuts in them to displace the water, but if you'd compare a zzr vs a cr500 in damp conditions I'd say the zzr would consistently get a better lap time. Having said that I have no knowledge of either so am basing my statement on logic. I'll be burning through my cr500's ASAP and get on the zzr's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Great, that was unexpectedly positive! Zzr's it is then. I really feel that my steering is quite heavy when changing direction at speed, so hopefully a lighter tyre might show an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6speedmanual Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Quoting Culminator: Great, that was unexpectedly positive! Zzr's it is then. I really feel that my steering is quite heavy when changing direction at speed, so hopefully a lighter tyre might show an improvement. It may be nothing to do with the weight of the tyre. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendennis Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 The ZZR is a great competition tyre, but it isn't light. So if the AO48r is heavier, than that's shocking 😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James.S Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 The ZZR is a cracking dry tyre, it is also what you want on a damp to drying track. ZZR can't compete with a CR500 in wet and cold conditions, 1. It will never warm up and 2. There is no rotary tread so it can't shift water - tyre gets lifted and woohoo funtimes. Then again if it is that wet the CR500 can't compete with the CR28. Go with the ZZR's they are fine for most conditions other than big standing puddles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I love the ZZRs on mine, in the dry. In the wet they are like driving on marbles! There is a ZZS version with more tread, but not quite yet legal, so I suspect I will end up with a set of wheels with those on, to chuck on the car if the weather is looking the slightest bit iffy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris956 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Whats the difference in price between a ZZR and a AO48r ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliW Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I'd love to see these ZZS that I've heard about. As for ZZRs, excellent in most conditions except standing water. Much more pricey than A048s but I'd go for ZZRs. Oli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Price difference is about £50 a set more for the ZZRs. That's based on a cracking deal on AO48 s at £378 a set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon.Rogers1 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 But are those prices plus VAT? Kumho's are significantly less! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris956 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Quoting Culminator: Price difference is about £50 a set more for the ZZRs. That's based on a cracking deal on AO48 s at £378 a set. I can confirm that £378 is about right for a set of AO48r`s in 13inch INCLUDING vat. Are we saying that ZZR`s are £50 more per set still including vat ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Yes Chris, Caterham have ZZRs listed at £99 for the fronts and £113 for the rears, all inclusive of Vat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I thought Kumho's for circa £425 for a set of 4 - or is there a cheaper place to buy......? what about Yoko 021's anyone compred these like for like to 048's or R888 etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z3MCJez Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 AO48s fitted by Polley Motorsport for £90/corner. The ZZR prices, if real at £99 inc VAT and fitting are very good. CR500s were more like £120 when I switched series. Jez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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