Wrightpayne Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Tomorrow evening I have the hernia inducing task of torquing up the 200ft.lb hub nuts. Unfortunatly my torque wrench only goes up to 210 nm which is 155 ft.lb. Any ideas on how many degrees rotation more I need to apply to get to 200? Could I do it in 50 ft.lb increments and see how much it turns each time to calculate the final push? Alternatively, anyone in South Leics who can lend me one (LE9 6). Regards Ian PS I'll be reusing the existing nuts with loctite studlock!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnty Lyons Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 DONT reuse existing nuts they wear never minding the Nylock and the wear can strip the threads on your shafts NOT a cheap item to replace compared to the nuts Torque Place a jack handle over a pulling bar and swing your weight down on it Most Ford garages just use a scaffolding pole Ive NEVER torqued mine in 11 yrs and have never had any bother But had to replace stripped shaft on an s3 last weekend ☹️ jj N.I. L7C AR 🙆🏻 Membership No.3927. 240BHP 1900cc K Series 40th Anniversary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normans_Ghost Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Jonty, you'll get flamed for suggesting that you don't torque every nut and bolt on the car. I don't because I was trained to know how tight they should be by feel. The only fixings that get torqued are main & big end bolts and head bolts. More for eveness than toghtness. Norman Verona, 1989 BDR 220bhp, Reg: B16BDR, Mem No 2166, the full story here You and your seven toThe French Blatting Company Limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stationary M25 Traveller Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Easy fix - weigh yourself and stand the appropriate distance along the breaker bar you are using to turn the socket. i.e. if you weigh 200 lb, stand 1 foot along the handle from the nut. If you weigh 100 lb, stand 2 feet along it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Day Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Having done up my hub nuts using the scaffold pole torque wrench it would be nice to have a more gentle approach to this. Those familiar with the air-cooled VW world may have come across this: the Mr Torque Tool. Having used it, it is simple in use & allows one to torque the rear hub nut to 254 ft/lbs using a torque wrench set to 35 ft/lbs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridgway Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 unfortunately Mr Torque will multiply your calibration errors too. Better make sure your wench is calibrated. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k.russell Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Ian i have a great big torque wrench somewhwere if you want to borrow it, i will have to search it out though, last time i used it was for the crank pulley bolt here will need to find it anyway for my stud upgrade. how did things go 🤔 Kevin R black(but sometimes orange)-ali HPC here Edited by - k.russell on 7 Apr 2009 19:13:54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnty Lyons Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Sorry Norman at 60+ I was trained to use the feel approach Like you I only Torque Big end and Main bearings Everything else gets My Elbow 😬 😬 😬 😬 😬 😬 jj N.I. L7C AR 🙆🏻 Membership No.3927. 240BHP 1900cc K Series 40th Anniversary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridgway Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 It's a bit like learning music, speeches etc. The trick is the confidence to do it without the "helper". My Dad as a lifelong mechanic/engineer/technician taught me to do bolts without a torque wrench so I was perfectly happy. Then I built a caterham and thought it a good idea to follow the settings in the build manual. It's hard not to reach for the wench all the time when I am spannering on a caterham (doesn't happen much these days). Never even thought of using the wench on the Radical as I haven't got a list of torques required. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted April 7, 2009 Author Share Posted April 7, 2009 Cheers Kev - I'll give you a call. So far so good... New front discs, mintex pads, long wheel studs all round, repacked wheel bearings all round, new boot cover, tall cage on and 4 new CV boots. Left to do... Collect new hub nuts & fit, fix coolant leak on water rail and tax it! Oh and fit half doors and tonneau Should be out in it at the weekend 😬 Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Day Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 unfortunately Mr Torque will multiply your calibration errors too. Absolutely but the main advantage is using it to get the nut undone! The VW has a castellated nut so it's easy to mark the position; & guess what, when torquing back up it goes to exactly the right point! The other useful feature is that it bolts to the hub using the wheel nuts so there is none of the lifting moment when trying to do it on axel stands using John Howe's "K" tool to stop the hub rotating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vine Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Rather than standing at the appropriate point along the scaffold pole, you could use a spring balance to apply the required pull at a measured distance. Very gentle! JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stationary M25 Traveller Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Boingggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg 😳 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridgway Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 This is like talking to my wife! Mick Use it like this then Graham It won't work like that then Mick oh no you don't use it like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k.russell Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Ian, fitted my studs today,all went well, feel much better now i have some thread in my nuts also changed the brake fluid. almost ready for the road now. 😬 Kevin R black(but sometimes orange)-ali HPC here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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