Richyd Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Some of you may have seen my post last week about the small amount of corrosion I have found along the horzontal edge of my scuttle under the master switch... Well over the weekend I took off the knee panels under the dash to have a closer inspection. What I found was both bad and not-so-bad. I removed the steel reinforcing plates that sit in the little ali gutters at each end of the scuttle. The disappointing bit was finding that they were both badly rusted, with the powder coat just flaking off. The good news was that once I took these out, I cleaned up the ali gutters, and the corrosion was very, very minimal indeed. So, having cleaned up the steel plates and hammerited them, they now look a lot better. I was planning to put them back and drown the area in waxoil, which I am hoping will arrest the corrosion permanently or at least for a good few years. However, I did wonder about fitting RIF's retained nut fittings instead....??? I do not currently run with an aero, but I plan to next year. However, this aside, do the carbon bits simply drop in to replace the cr@p original steel plates?? and are they a full permanent replacement for these plates (which I guess re-inforce the side of the car ) Also, will they react with the ali and cause more corrosion or not?? *confused* Final point of note - I was really sad about the state of these steel plates. My car is a very clean and tidy 2004 car, with no signs of corrosion anywhere else on the car. The chassis looks very clean, I have always considered it a good-un. How pants is it to build such a clean chassis, only to bolt two cheap bits of steel to it that have not been powdercoated to the same standard as the rest of the car????? *mad* C7 DVA - It's a 1.6 187bhp screamer!!!here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 its no doubt as a result of washing the car that corrosion has started. The plates would undoubtedly go through the same powder coating process at Arch, but it they are bathed in your washing water then they have a hard time why not replace them with some ally plates ?, suitable sections are available in B&Q here is C7 TOP Taffia joint AO with Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 have you had a look at the chassis down inside ythe engine bay near the footbox ?, this is also a good water gathering place when washing the car ☹️ here is C7 TOP Taffia joint AO with Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richyd Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 Dave - I have had a good look around the engine bay and all appears A-OK. However, I cannot see inside the grot-traps, so I was planning to give a good liberal spraying of waxoil into the grot traps and hope that does the job. Any other areas I should be spraying waxoil??? C7 DVA - It's a 1.6 187bhp screamer!!!here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain chaos Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 When washing my car I jack the back up slightly so water alwasy drains forward and away from the scuttle... Sad, but true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richyd Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 thing is I've only washed my car twice this year!!!!... 😬 - thats 1 wash per trackday and 2500 miles 😬 😬 You're damned if you wash it, and damned if you don't!!?? C7 DVA - It's a 1.6 187bhp screamer!!!here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil G Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Sad? Possibly..........Good idea all the same Phil Step up to red alert! - Are you absolutely sure? It does mean changing the bulb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 or use a slightly sloping drive way ...like mine 😬 here is C7 TOP Taffia joint AO with Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richyd Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 anyway - back to the original question...... carbon retained nut bit, is it recommended or should I stick the cheapo steel plates back in and drown 'em in waxoil???? C7 DVA - It's a 1.6 187bhp screamer!!!here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickrick Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 The carbon bits won't react with your Ally. The carbon is covered with epoxy resin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CageyH Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 But the holes aren't! Only dead fish go with the flow....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickrick Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 The holes won't corrode the ally either. 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiF Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Should fit as a direct replacement RiF Driving one of the first Duratec 7, and building CA07BON for Henrietta 😬 😬 😬.for pictures of 7 and carbon andCA07BON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I reply to every thread Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 The RIF panels are a nice piece of kit - preferable to the powder coated steel version. The problem in this area of the car is that you have a meeting point for dissimilar metals in an area that gets wet and can stay wet for a while. You effectively have a steel ali sandwich with the ali as the filling. You also have 2 steel "annodes" protruding through the sandwich in the form of the studs that the scuttle sits on - then you tighten the whole lot together with nuts that scrub off the powder coating on the steel. Rif and a thin coat of waxoyl between the chassis bar and scuttle return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickrick Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 You also have 2 steel "annodes" protruding through the sandwich in the form of the studs that the scuttle sits on Erm, the Aluminium is the Anode, as it's the less Noble metal. Sorry! But we knew what you meant. 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richyd Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 Aves - Thanks, that was exactly the sort of advice/answer I was looking for.. Cheers C7 DVA - It's a 1.6 187bhp screamer!!!here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I reply to every thread Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Mick - I kinda knew I'd get it wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I cant see RIFs carbon strips on his website. Could some one (RIF?) post a link or email me costs etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiF Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Here you are: http://www.carbon-bits.com/catalogue/products.php?cat=10 Captive nut set. RiF Driving one of the first Duratec 7, and building CA07BON for Henrietta 😬 😬 😬.for pictures of 7 and carbon andCA07BON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted November 12, 2008 Leadership Team Share Posted November 12, 2008 Linky Stu. Joint Area Representative MAD Sevens (Merseyside And District) www.superse7ens.co.uk..........the rebuild 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted November 12, 2008 Leadership Team Share Posted November 12, 2008 Close up linky Richard - are you going to the ARs' meeting? If so any chance you could take a pair with you? Stu. Joint Area Representative MAD Sevens (Merseyside And District) www.superse7ens.co.uk..........the rebuild 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Ah I see! I was hoping I could just get a replacement for the steel strip without the rivnut/ aeri attachments. Would be a shame to cut it off - but I guess a long thin piece of carbon about 0.3-0.5cm drilled in the right place would do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiF Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Thanks for the links Stu If Tom you need a modified version, I am sure we can assist RiF Driving one of the first Duratec 7, and building CA07BON for Henrietta 😬 😬 😬.for pictures of 7 and carbon andCA07BON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Rich, I may take you up on that. Having stripped all the bulkheads & scuttle off last winter to, amongst others, sort corrosion out, I was a bit uncomfortable putting the big steel strips back in, even after painting. Im sure a steel-ali-steel sandwich cant be good for corrosion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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