metal mickey Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 I'm looking for advice as to which/what to buy. I want a system that is relatively simple to use and easy to download/edit/burn to dvd. Are the hard drive systems reliable 🤔Which bullet cam should I use 🤔 What resolution 🤔 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_topcat Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 i got mine form http://www.motorsportcameras.co.uk/ and its very easy to use, even i can use it. i took an hours recording with it the other day. here is a small extract. i havent done any enhancing etc as i dont know how yet but it should give you an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k80rum Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 A friend of mine has one of these that he uses for his rowing training and which he's started using for mountain-biking too. I'd been idly wondering how good it would be for in-car footage. Obviously it doesn't have the same recording capacity as a bullet-cam route and I haven't compared the quality but it struck me as a low-cost alternative without the need for an external recorder or associated power. I'll have a go at recording some footage when I'm back on the road to see what it's like and post on the website although IMHO the bulletcam route and topcat's great recommendation look the best bet Darren E K80RUM Website and Emerald maps library Superlight R #54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgrigsby Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 The bullet camera bit is the easy part, what you record onto is the tricky bit. Lots of people use camcorders (which is what I've used before) but I think there is trend towards solid state recorders now. I've been looking at them for a while now but I'm still not 100% sure which is the best choice. These guys know what they are doing and their recording devices will be very good quality but they aren't cheap. Rob G www.SpeedySeven.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 With the head cam ATC 2000, what kind of recording time do you expect with a 2Gb card? Helping and encouraging others rather than putting them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k80rum Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 According to one user, Phil: "..if you use a 2gb sd card on 30 frames per second you can get an hour and 45 minutes of action.." HTH Darren E K80RUM Website and Emerald maps library Superlight R #54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 If you use the ATC use high speedcards as standard (cheap) ones can cause problems; as i understand from someone who uses one (and I can't remember who 😳) Ian - MI 5EVN - Slightly Vider SVelte model 😬 now repainted to match the Autocom headsets 😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrelevant Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Looked into this recently . . . weighted up the pros and cons of various options, and ended up buying a Chase Cam PDR100 because it's basically the bee's knees of solid state, hi-res, MPEG2 recorders. Couldn't find anything else that was properly G-load/shock tested, with decent features, and capable of recording hi quality MPEG2 format video(best for editing IMO). If you want one, it's cheapest to buy from the US as they're almost as much in £ as they are in $. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markiebabes Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 "..if you use a 2gb sd card on 30 frames per second you can get an hour and 45 minutes of action.." I have one of the ATC 2000 Action cameras and it does about 1hr on a 2 gb SD card at 30fps or 1hr 45 at 15fps take a look first time i used it here Quality of picture is ok and Sound is not brilliant but for price is *thumbup*and its waterproof . Mark Car Webshots Here Edited by - markiebabes on 30 Dec 2007 23:38:57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k80rum Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Superb VFM as you say Mark - it's really great to be able to see some footage. At around the £100 price point, it's roughly the price of a bullet cam lens on it's own. From a personal point of view, although i've got a camcorder I could re-use, having a completely portable self-contained system that's relatively cheap (and so not something I will worry about too much) is a big Darren E K80RUM Website and Emerald maps library Superlight R #54 Edited by - k80rum on 31 Dec 2007 00:18:51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david nelson Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 I have a bulet cam and this goes into a canon vidio camera. I have been looking at sold state recorders and think the most importent thing for me is playback. the recorder needs a screen. also would want LANC control as well. As for the atc 2000 i am not convincedwith the qulity of the picture. Have a look at u tube and the quility of the vidio's David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat the Plumber Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 i got a bullet cam for christmas, and i'm looking at a digital recorder, however the camcorder i have doesn't connect it either. where's "Fishy Dave", isn't he "Fast Films" and should be a little more informative. the PDR100 is cheap or is that because the $ is good Duratec is the way forward!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonbell Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 I still haven't got round to getting a bullet cam setup for various reasons. I'm only prepared to do it if the quality of picture and sound is watchable, so many videos are made unwatchable by wind noise. I'm pretty happy with which bullet cam / mic setup I am going to go for but the recorder is the issue. I don't have a camcorder, never liked home movies that much, have always preferred stills so for me to buy a camcorder seems pointless, also so many of them no longer offer AV in for the bullet cam. A solid state recorder is more interesting, but you really need a screen so that you can check where the camera is pointed before you start recording. I would be interested in peoples experiences of various systems and seeing examples of some of the recorded footage. Simon Bell - Caterham 7 Duratec R I`ve seen the future.....and it`s powered by duratec Check out the website here Edited by - simonbell on 31 Dec 2007 11:43:59 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k80rum Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 On a related note, I came across a site by a guy in the states who wanted a good quality but cheap home-brew setup. He decided to try using a phone in his Elise and I have to say the results of his latest venture using a Nokia N95 here look very good given the outlay (around £200 for the camera). The advantages for someone like myself, wanting in-car footage on a budget are that it's solid-state (recording to an SD card) and is recording at 640x480 in .MP4 format so it's a direct USB transfer to play on a PC. Its BIG disadvantage is obviously mounting the thing. I doubt it'd mount too well on a 7 Darren E K80RUM Website and Emerald maps library Superlight R #54 Edited by - k80rum on 1 Jan 2008 18:28:56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickaddison Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 I'm thinking about going solid state for speed of transfer (with a tape you have to play it back in real time to load it into the computer for editing) and have exchanged a few emails with a guy from ChaseCam who is also on SELOC. Might have a look around again at Autosport.... Like David though I'd definitely also want a screen added to make sure it was pointing in the right direction! LANC is also very convenient The recording format has very little to do with the noise - that's all about where the mic is positioned. For that reason most of the unwatchable footage that I have seen has been from camcorders rather than bullet cams, using the camcorder's inbuilt mic which is invariably in the airflow. The mic in my bullet cam set-up in in the boot, though many others favour under the dash FireBlade pilot and Regalia Manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal mickey Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 what is lanc 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjmmarsh Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 "How SONY's LANC™ protocol works LANC™ is a bidirektional serial open collector communication port, where two devices can communicate with each other. The camcorder or still video camera is able to receive commands and sends back its status. The camcorder provides even more data like time code, remain time etc... The master (camcorder or still video camera) generates the telegram frame, creating 8 startbits, followed each by 8 bits (1 byte) and a (long) stopbit. Then everything starts again. One bit has a duration of 104µs. The distance between two startbits can vary between 1200µs and 1400µs depending on the device. The distance between two telegrams is 20ms for PAL/625 and 16.6ms for NTSC/525. The timing conforms to RS232 at 9600 Baud. Of course also the service mode is accessable, but I won't enter into this. In the internet you will find ready-to-use devices to buy." Are you any the wiser now? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrelevant Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 nickaddison: The chase cam PDR100 has video out so you can use a screen with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomGaval Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Metal Mickey wrote: what is lanc It's a remote on/Pause/off switch. Or at least that's how I use it. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonbell Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Anyone got any experience of this little device? here Simon Bell - Caterham 7 Duratec R I`ve seen the future.....and it`s powered by duratec Check out the website here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative bluenose Posted January 2, 2008 Area Representative Share Posted January 2, 2008 Simon No experience but some useful links to other devices here and here Ian B pointed out to me that the PV-500 seems very good for recording resolution at 720x480 @ 25-30FPS. Only trouble is it is £235 inc VAT ☹️ Need to save up for one Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonbell Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Another at the higher end of the market but very tasty none the less..... here Simon Bell - Caterham 7 Duratec R I`ve seen the future.....and it`s powered by duratec Check out the website here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal mickey Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanJ Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I got the RF Concepts Pack 5 for Christmas along with this: http://www.archos.com/products/gen_5/archos_405/index.html?country=global&lang=en and the travel dock. Early indications are that the DVR is particularly impressive, but I need to play with it a bit more to confirm whether or not I would recommend it. Ian 😬 1.6K SS Superlight #006 Penn Sevens Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david nelson Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Ian does the archos have a lanc control or some other way of starting it other than the record button on it? thanks David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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