The Don Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 I'm considering adding a starter button like this one on eBay here Not being particularly technically competeant I'm attracted by the apparent ease of fitting Anyone see any problems with this one, or should I go for the BRSB commonly seen on here? Thanks, Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_C Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 That's the same as my Maplin BRSB except for the print on the front. Assuming your car is a K, it takes 10 mins to fit a Maplin one if you have a crimping tool and a spare length of cable. Longest job was drilling the hole in the dash. Cheers Tom FH54WLX - only the car supports ManU, honest! see here - UPDATED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don Posted May 31, 2006 Author Share Posted May 31, 2006 Tom, Thanks - my car's a Vx 2.0 if that makes a difference? Is your button this one here? I don't have a crimping tool, but for a one-off (and appreciating the FAQ says that cheap ones are a false economy) can I get way with the £5.99 Maplin tool? Can't see me using it again Thanks, Howard Edited by - The Don on 31 May 2006 11:35:47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 I am a complete electrikery numpty, I bought mine from vehicle products for a couple of quid, looked up how to wire in a big red starter button from the FAQ on blatchat, and it was very easy and took about 1/2 hour including deciding where to put it 😬 RED 2.0 HPC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_C Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Nah, that one is too small. I got this one here. I think the wiring on the switch for the VX should be pretty much the same, certainly I followed the same instructions as Gambo. Cheers Tom FH54WLX - only the car supports ManU, honest! see here - UPDATED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don Posted May 31, 2006 Author Share Posted May 31, 2006 Hmmm, around £10 from Maplin for the button plus reusable (though crappy) crimping tool versus £20 for the S2000 one... Did you get the thinwall cable from Maplin too, or from Vehicle Wiring Products, per the FAQ? If Maplin can you tell me the ref - I can't see it 😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_C Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Don't think mine was thinwall, just bought 2m of standard single core cable. I got mine over the counter though, as they have a branch on the retail park in Cambridge which is open at Caterham-bodging hours. Cheers Tom FH54WLX - only the car supports ManU, honest! see here - UPDATED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Molloy Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 These buttons all look very tacky. You want the proper ITW 76-94 panel switch (as used by Caterham). The tactile feel is superb, and it is sealed to IP67 so no danger of water ingress. I bought mine from RS components - surprisingly you no longer need a company account. Think it was around 10 quid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don Posted May 31, 2006 Author Share Posted May 31, 2006 Tacky is my middle name Had a look at the RS website and couldn't see one for around a tenner. Closest I could find was this here ...only rated to IP65 though. Can you provide a URL to yours? Thanks, Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Molloy Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Try searching for part number 320-815. Cost is 8.90 + VAT. Switch is rated to 10A, so you probably don't need a relay (but measure starter relay current to check!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 If anyone is interested I have ONE CatStart circuit left over from a batch of 20 I have just made for various club members. The CatStart is a one (big red) button device which operates IGNITION ON, IGNITION OFF and STARTING all from the one button. ie: no separate ignition switch is needed. Your immobiliser is totally unaffected by the use of this circuit. Operation is as follows, from ignition OFF: 1st push = ignition ON 2nd push (held down for 1 second) = starter motor ON for as long as the button is held down 3rd push (and release immediately) = ignition OFF With the ignition ON, the circuit will recognise a push-and-immediate-release as an ignition OFF command and a push-and-hold-down as a START command. There is a jumper option inside which will require a 3 second hold of the button initially to switch the ignition ON to provide additional security if desired. The OFF and START functions are unaffected by this jumper. Fitting is very straightforward and very detailed instructions are included. First to shout gets it. Price is £68 + £5 p&p or collect from my home if geographically feasible (Bedfordshire) Chris 2003 1.8K SV 140hp see it here Edited by - Chris W on 31 May 2006 16:06:46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Molloy Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Big difference between 8 quid and 68 quid! 😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Big difference in functionality too £8 gets you a button. £68 gets you a sophisticated, microprocessor controlled ignition/start system. 2003 1.8K SV 140hp see it here Edited by - Chris W on 31 May 2006 18:07:39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMorris Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 But they both start the car ❗ Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Well a Vauxhall's a car too and cheaper than a 7.........but I bet you wouldn't swap it for your 7 😬 2003 1.8K SV 140hp see it here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Molloy Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 I might swap a VXR220 for my Se7en! In this case I think the "microprocessor controlled sophistication" is a bit overkill. In an emergency situation slapping the aircraft switch cover to kill the ign is a more natural reaction than having to think about a multi-function option. IMHO, of course. 😬 Edited by - Mike Molloy on 1 Jun 2006 14:37:36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Mike To switch off the engine with my module, you only have to hit the Big Red Button; there's no thinking required. That's certainly no slower than hitting an aircraft switch and certainly MUCH quicker than fiddling for the key. Also, an aircraft switch can be very easily accidentally knocked OFF, while reaching across the dash, as I did on a couple of occasions when I used to have one. Anyway, it's academic as the unit is sold; presumably to someone who can afford more than 8 quid. 😬 Chris PS: the VRX220 is around £30K so a lot lot MORE than the average 7 2003 1.8K SV 140hp see it here Edited by - Chris W on 1 Jun 2006 15:13:56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 BTW, ref the crimping tool discussion above, Farnell do a fantastic heavy-duty RATCHETED crimping tool for only £9.99 + vat. Chris 2003 1.8K SV 140hp see it here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Molloy Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Hey, you didn't specify *which* Vauxhall... Just out of interest I specc'd up a new R400 Cosworth and sailed easily past the 35K mark. Far too many impossible-to-resist shiny things in the options list... The place I have seen a switch like yours work *really* well was on a custom bike. The builder went for a totally clean look for the bars, all wiring hidden etc. The multifunction ign/start button was tucked up under the seat somewhere. Very nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elie boone Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 I've used a Bosch starter button part nr : 0 343 004 003 its a bit overkill with platinum contacts inside but the button is resessed in a ali housing. Price was about 40£ witch is quite a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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