Ian B Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 In which case Mick at Redline would be a very good choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterham Kid Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 *arrowup* As I proved yesterday we dont always spot the obvious!!! I have traditional instruments I think. Electronic trip meter. Edited by - Caterham Kid on 11 Apr 2013 09:45:24 Edited by - Caterham Kid on 11 Apr 2013 09:45:43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterham Kid Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 I have just bumped in to bluenose (Nick) in the office and he slapped my wrist for being such and idiot! I did say I felt a bit of a prat but he admitted it could happen to anyone. Oh well, it will teach me to take more time and be more observant next time.... I hope! Edited by - Caterham Kid on 11 Apr 2013 09:58:04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myothercarsa2cv Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Being red/black colour blind must be a pain in the 🙆🏻 Don't worry, we've all done stupid things ( ), at least it seems you've only fried a battery I'd still give the seller a shout. They might at least be able to explain why it fried the battery. When I was in retail, we accepted returns for more stupidity than that... One chap had run his Oakleys over and squished the frames and cracked a lens. Since the lenses shouldn't crack, we took them back In the meantime... I also struggled to get the leads to the battery when I swapped from Banner to this battery, same problem. Some careful clever re-routing sorted it though, snip the cable ties and see if you can shuffle them about a bit. I eventually bought a battery cage and laid it flat on the bulkhead where a heater would normally go. Much easier and the cables reach no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterham Kid Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 Being red/black colour blind must be a pain in the Ok ok I feel enough of an idiot without it being rubbed in all the time I didnt even look at the terminals. Just dropped the new battery in and connected the cables back up. Bad assumption. You know what they say about assumption! I'd still give the seller a shout. They might at least be able to explain why it fried the battery. I will see if I can contact them and ask their opinion. In the meantime... I also struggled to get the leads to the battery when I swapped from Banner to this battery, same problem. Some careful clever re-routing sorted it though, snip the cable ties and see if you can shuffle them about a bit. I eventually bought a battery cage and laid it flat on the bulkhead where a heater would normally go. Much easier and the cables reach no problem. I have snipped some cable ties and rerouted so it reaches. It is not perfect. Have you got any pictures of your battery cage and bulkhead mod? That would be really useful. I read a post here on BC recently where it was stated that the battery was a direct swap for the banner (apart from size). It would have been nice to know then about the terminal swap. It was another reason I didnt pay so much attention! Edited by - Caterham Kid on 11 Apr 2013 11:40:07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy couchman Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Maybe take the battery back AND tell them what you did. They may say 'That shouldn't have broken it Sir' - or they may not! Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterham Kid Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 It was an eBay purchase so not so easy to just take it back and explain. However I have sent them an email to explain what I did and ask if they have any expalanation so I will see what, if anything, they come back with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin J Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 My banner battery lasted four years, seems average but I didn't have a conditioner for the first 18 months so hopefully this one will last longer. I like the easy life so fitted a like for like replacement. A bit heavier & a little more expensive but an easy job. I wouldn't like to live next door to this plonker conducting a "test" to see if a halfords battery would explode. Edited by - Martin Jeffrey on 11 Apr 2013 14:09:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted April 11, 2013 Member Share Posted April 11, 2013 Quoting Martin Jeffrey: I wouldn't like to live next door to this plonker conducting a "test" to see if a halfords battery would explode. Shouldn't the last scene have been in Halfords when he asks for a replacement under the lifetime guarantee? Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myothercarsa2cv Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Caterham Kid, sorry for the ribbing, I couldn't resist I've done much more stupid stuff so can't really talk...! I've probably got a pic somewhere, I'll try to find one, but I've basically rotated the cables on their mounting points on the alternator / starter motor etc to give me an extra couple of mm, and kept them as far away from the exhaust as possible. Battery sits slightly left of centre, and I got the cage from OBP if I remember correctly (but the same as this)... The battery is almost exactly the same dimensions as a Red Top 25 (1mm in it), so you just need a cage for one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterham Kid Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 That's ok. I was only joking. I don't mind being ribbed! I realised your battery solution wouldn't work for me as you said it is mounted where a heater would be. Well... I have a heater because I'm a wuss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myothercarsa2cv Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Dump it and save a few kilos Perhaps another option could be to screw such a cage to the end of the footwell? There could well be space and the weight would be lower down too? I found I couldn't lie it flat in the banner position and the block of wood solution just didn't do it for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterham Kid Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 I have already made the bit of wood! That was the only bit of the job that went really well 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbird Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 If you have started the car the ECU and Immobiliser should be OK, also you would have probably notice the ignition light, if you had fried a diode the ignition light would have probably stayed on after engine started, so maybe you have been lucky, but yes still best to check for 13.8ish volts across battery when charging , The spark on disconect could have been current being drawn by ECU and Immobiliser protection ccts, fingers crossed for Lucky , if no damage obvious after checks might I suggest its a good week to buy a lottery ticket 😬 although still cannot think of a single reason that battery would be fubared, after all they are designed to dish out 300amp + for seconds Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted April 11, 2013 Member Share Posted April 11, 2013 Quoting Caterham Kid: I have already made the bit of wood! That was the only bit of the job that went really well:-) Remember to fit it the right way round... Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterham Kid Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 Amazing ❗ Just started the car on the jump starter and the voltage across the terminals was 14.4/14.5 so I guess the alternator is alright! So all I need now is a new battery. Oh... And to fit it the right way round! I must have overlooked something. Maybe I will buy that lottery ticket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbird Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 presume ignition light goes out, you can still see 14 + volts with a blown diode but light will stay on. other than that *thumbup* *thumbup* *thumbup*. 😬 Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterham Kid Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 Yep light goes out immediately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbird Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 1st dibs on 10% of the lottery win then 😬, i'll stick my 10p in the post when we win Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterham Kid Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 My girlfriend might have something to say about that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbird Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Ah ! ☹️ can't compete with the Fairer sex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myothercarsa2cv Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Interesting thing about the light, mine sometimes stays on... Another blip of the immobiliser off button and off it goes. Just assumed it was something to do with that. Might look in to the alternator diode... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbird Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 that doesn't sound like a diode problem in Alternator, odd, but not diode pack, probably best not to mess with anything on the car this year just stick to driving it Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin J Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Might look in to the alternator diode... *eek* Don't touch!.... 🙅🏻♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myothercarsa2cv Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Yeah probably cheaper just to replace the battery it goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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