tiddy1 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 K-series engine with the following spec: 1.8K, BBR turbo liners, Block machined for correct stand off, steel dowel + good head gasket Uprated oil pump Standard crank Forged, Cir-clipped pistons Balanced VVC cylinder head- ported on standard valves piper 285 H cam Verniers Jenvy TBs Bernard scouse air box Lost spark twin coil pack Emerald ECU engine loom EU2 engine Light weight flywheel dry sump system with Laminover. Caterham sump pan Purple pump Seperate splitable tank dry sump engine mount All the suitable pipes It was RR'd at emerald in April 07 and given a clean bill of health and has bone less than 500 miles since, showed 208 BHP at 7647rpm, 152 lbf at 6500 rpm Dave walker said it was one of the best engines on 285H cams he had tested Total milage since built is approx 10K This is still in the car can be heard running/ driven Not included, starter, water rail, alternator, flywheel, exhaust Price £4000 complete I would consider installing it in your car if you require (for a negotiable fee) Simon Edited by - tiddy1 on 28 Jan 2008 10:40:28 Edited by - tiddy1 on 28 Jan 2008 20:15:31 Edited by - tiddy1 on 13 Mar 2008 10:40:31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tiddy1 Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 So no market for K-series engines any more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrelevant Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 What did engines from that batch of R400 race cars sell for? Nifty put one in his car IIRC? c.£4500 wasn't it? So more than yours and yours comes with the D/S system, ECU, loom, etc. With this in mind, your price seems OK to me. Maybe you're right about the K series market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiddy1 Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 some more info added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted January 28, 2008 Leadership Team Share Posted January 28, 2008 Simon - wouldn't the flywheel/clutch cover have been balanced with the crank assembly? Nice spec, good price Stu. www.superse7ens.co.uk..........the rebuild 😬 Edited by - sforshaw on 28 Jan 2008 21:59:49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifty Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 When I bought my R400 set up (which came with dry sump, engine loom, ECU, mounting braket etc .. the full kit) I paid £3500, which was the standard going rate when all the race cars converted. I actually had a VHPD which I was going to convert to much the same spec as Simon's engine and it was going to cost well in excess of his price here, if you take into account the Emerald and the Scouse airbox, so I think his price is very reasonable. I can only imagine the ex-race R400 Ks were set at such a low price because CC envisaged that there was going to be a glut of them and they didn't want to be holding the stock, but they did want to encourage the racers to change. Perhaps there was also the thought that the fact that they were ex-race might reduce their worth in the eyes of a potential buyer .. who was most likely not going to be a racer. Anyway, they were silly cheap and are no longer available so that should not affect Simon's asking for a sensible price Keep off the straight and narrow 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spankthemonkey Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Could you contact me regarding the engine you have for sale please john.hill@daimler.com Bigamy is having 1 wife to many, marriage is much the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiddy1 Posted February 19, 2008 Author Share Posted February 19, 2008 Still for sale, if you buy the whole installation I will include a lightened flywheel. Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tiddy1 Posted February 26, 2008 Author Share Posted February 26, 2008 I can't believe no one wants a 210 bhp K-series any more The K-series is dead, long live the K-series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAB Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Simon Would you consider selling the throttle bodies, airbox and Emerald? Cheers CAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Golf Juliet Tango Posted February 26, 2008 Area Representative Share Posted February 26, 2008 tiddy1/Simon I looked at this ad but decided to buy a VHPD with 11,500 miles on the clock from an Exige (being converted to Honda power) which cost £2,600. I hope to get a four figure sum back on the ancillaries (note the "hope" - but there is manifold. alternator, Lotus ECU, aircon pump and tubing, strater and close-ratio gearbox) so decided that that was better value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubbster Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I wish I could afford it - cheaper than mine will be by the tiime I get to that sort of power and add a dry sump, forged pistons, light flywheel etc. It's only taken four and a half years - I have started my website at last! Early days yet . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifty Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 GJT, You are not comparing like with like. Apart from the fact that you will incur (surprisingly large) expenses installing the VHPD into a 7 you will still end up with an engine which is widely recognised to perform below the often advertised output (both DVA and Dave Walker suggested to me that few see a genuine 180bhp in standard form). So in reality you are comparing a 175bhp engine with a certified and very well specc'd 208 bhp engine ready to drop straight into a 7. (Bernard Scouse box £250ish, Emerald £500+, engine mapping £200+ .. so there's another £1,000 without even bothering to think about the benefits of the other upgraded parts). Before I found the R400 engine I had a VHPD for which I paid £1800 and to get that to a reliable 200bhp was going to cost more than Simon is offering his engine for ... and that was 2 years ago. (And I live within a stones throw of both Scholar and Emerald so didn't bother including any transportation costs). Keep off the straight and narrow 😬 Edited by - Nifty on 27 Feb 2008 06:44:42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 why do people fell that they are entitled to comment on the selling price of goods and compare against what they have bought ?. Do they consider their contributions constructive or am I missing their point ? Taffia rear gunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiddy1 Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 For all those who think that this is an expencive engine I have listed below some of the costs which go into a 210 BHP engine, these are real costs not the ones you tell SWMBO, I know we all try and kid our selves that it wil be much cheaper, I have not added the labour time which anyone who has built an engine will know is quite considerable. Item Cost springs /caps £ 135 Liners £ 220 Block £ 300 oil pump £ 100 pistons/rods £ 500 Gaskets £ 70 stem seals £ 25 Head bolts £ 80 Porting £ 200 Harness £ 60 Cam bolts £ 10 DVA Cams, ECU TB £ 1,800 Valves £ 100 Bearings £ 50 Air box £ 350 Verniers £ 150 Machining £ 150 Skim +valves £ 70 flywheel bolts £ 10 Flywheel £ 300 Balancing £ 300 Plugs £ 20 Crank pulley £ 55 Plug leads £ 70 Pipes £ 60 R-R tune £ 350 Dry sump pump £ 300 Tank £ 150 sump+bits £ 500 Engine mount £ 45 Pipes+ bits £ 180 Laminover £ 190 Total £ 6900 So at £4400 its not a bad saving and you know that it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiddy1 Posted March 5, 2008 Author Share Posted March 5, 2008 tum te tum te tum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTH Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 V tempted. How much to fit as a ballpark figure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiddy1 Posted March 5, 2008 Author Share Posted March 5, 2008 depends what you have in your car but £500 max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTH Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Ok- I guess that factors in resale of existing powerplant (?) In my case a 1.6ss. Im going to do a bit of "man maths" to see if this is feasible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiddy1 Posted March 5, 2008 Author Share Posted March 5, 2008 not really, what engine you have would determine how much work would be needed needed to be done, for example if you had a xflow there is lots to change but for that price I was assuming you would keep your old engine, you would probably get £500 for you old engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTH Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 ☹️Wont be this year unfortunately. Have a BTTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiddy1 Posted March 11, 2008 Author Share Posted March 11, 2008 Is it worth taking it back to the top again, I can't believe that this add has had over 3500 views but very little interest, I could make it cheaper but as no one seems interested I don't see the point. I guess I am stuck with 210 BHP and won't be down grading to 120, what a hardship....... For an additional cost I could include the rest of the car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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