Degner Posted November 5, 2020 Posted November 5, 2020 I like the idea of these of these, so apologies if this is a daft question but is it possible to retro fit these to a K series car?
Wrightpayne Posted November 5, 2020 Posted November 5, 2020 Their Direct to Head version is normal fitment (as you are probably aware). Also available from QED. The advantage of these are that air boxes have been developed that fit under the bonnet.I'm pretty sure there is one member who runs a K Series with actual DCOEs so it is feasible.No one sees under the bonnet when you are hurtling past ;-)Ian
K7 VCT Posted November 5, 2020 Posted November 5, 2020 The ones you are posting about are fitted to the sigma engines 1600 super sports cars edition from earlier this year
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted November 5, 2020 Leadership Team Posted November 5, 2020 To fit them to a K-Series they'll need a twin 40's inlet manifold which if ever made would probably be as rare as rocking horse poo!
Wrightpayne Posted November 5, 2020 Posted November 5, 2020 Perhaps not that rare! https://www.webcon.co.uk/products/10598-14-16-18-2-x-dcoe/
7 wonders of the world Posted November 5, 2020 Posted November 5, 2020 the DCOE Heritage are Very expensive, perfect for their intended market but not on a K - the DTH are much better, port spacing is correct and you don't have the manifold kinks to upset the fuel suspension either.
7SW Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 Hello, Having no (not yet) experience in this domain, what is required for installing these DTH bodies?I guess that the Mems ECU has to be remapped or changed for an Emerald has to be installed.Several element such as TPS, pressure regulator, injectors, IAV, ... have to be adapted or changed.Does someone has any experience for this transformation/adaptation?
Wrightpayne Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 This is worth a read - written by oilyhands of this parish...http://kengine.dvapower.com/
simon_h Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 Quite a bit is carried over. You will need an ecu that does alpha/n fuel and spark so emerald is easier as it plugs straight in to a eu2 loom. Iac isn’t used with one of them. I think the fuel rail can be reused. Injectors can also be used.Alastair Westle has just fitted qed jenveys to his car so would be a good person to ask
oilyhands Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 With the right airbox kit you can retain the whole of the injection system from your plenum, all you need is the DTH TBs , the airbox kit (now available again) and an Emerald ECU with adaptor and appropriate map. Installation instructions are available on my website.The Webcon manifold for the DCOE lookalikes is agricultural, heavy and you cant get the attachment bolts in the holes without modification, the port spacing is also a long way off from the head ports. DTH bodies are the way to go.Oily
Degner Posted November 7, 2020 Author Posted November 7, 2020 Thanks for the responses.It was more from an retro aesthetic viewpoint than performance, the look of the K&N's through the bonnet and the induction noise on my clam shelled 1996 K really appeals......So it is feasible?
oilyhands Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 It's possible but it's likely to cost you a good bit more than the equivalent DTH bodies and they will be considerably bulkier than the bodies, whether they will require the bonnet to be cut is hard to say and whether they will clear the chaisis rail isn't possible to assess without an attempted dry run installation.DCOE approx installation costs £1600 + the cost of filters, hosing, trumpets, banjo connections, fuel pressure regulator, throttle linkage etc., I'd say well over £2000.DTH approx installation costs £1200 complete with airbox, trumpets , linkage and everything you need.Oily
murph7355 Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 It would be a mistake to compromise the engine for purely aesthetic reasons IMO.The induction noise on DTH throttle bodies with a decent air filter etc is absolutely brilliant. I just posted this on the air filter thread but gives an idea of the aesthetic...I think they look great as well as work and sound awesome.
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