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I have a 07 Roadsport SV150 on 15s and the handling could be much better Im sure.

It bump steers quite badly, to to the point of a 60mph B road becoming a white knuckle ride.

Im going to get the car geo'd and corner weighted, and a set of JWM bump steer BJ's. but Im interested to know your views on what to do to improve the handling.

 

 

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I have the same model as you, I had Team Leos Motorsport set all the suspension up, and the car handles really well. 

You are thinking down the right lines to get it set up properly , I would definitely go to someone who knows Sevens. 

Kingsley. 

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I have had it where the car sort of steers itself and it can be a bit like fighting the steering. The steering can also be heavier than usual. For example applying some pressure on the steering wheel to the left to make it keep straight and later have to do the opposite. I think the switch has something to do with a change in road surface so could be bump steer related. This effect can creep up on me but each time it does this a dollop of grease or thick gear oil through the 36mm adjuster bolt in the steering rack has cured it. The cure for me lasts about 20,000 miles.

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I had the same problem, my car was possibly the worst handling car I have ever owned ( on bumpy roads )

First check the toe in/ out it wants to be about neutral for the road, the rake of the car, it should be around 10/15 mm lower at the front. Also check your bump steer mine was horrendous! I can't believe a car could leave a factory so bad.

Don't listen to pundits who tell you need shims, you need to measure it , in my case my rack needed lowering by quite an amount and it took some doing to come up with a solution. I ended up using taper pins and ditching the track rod ends and using spherical rod bearings. The car is sorted and bumpy roads do not have you darting from one side of the road to another.

I have to say I'm not impressed with some of Caterhams engineering, although mine is a 1995 vintage  

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Interesting reading, as I am now putting my car through an inspection procedure to allow it on the road, one of the checks is for "bump steer" apparently way out of allowable limits, and it did move about a lot on bumpy bends or uneven road surfaces.

Turns out it left the factory in 1982 with the steering rack mounting blocks upside down, so the rack was "high" (different size mounting blocks, about 8mm originally taller block below the rack)  simple fix, use the shorter mounting blocks below the rack tube, bringing the tie rods and track rod ends into alignment with the centre line of the rack, when viewed from the front all are horizontal, and after Mr. Inspector had me subject the car to a wheel alignment check, which didn't need any adjustment, I went for a quick drive, and can confirm the drive is much improved.

Aim to get the track rod end ball joint inline with the centreline of the rack when viewed from ahead, made all the difference to my car.

Hope this helps.

Nigel.

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Speak to Dave at Gemzoe Motorsport. He dosnt just flat floor your car he sets it up for you. He transformed my car , best upgrade I ve done. I can’t believe the difference, 2nd gear corners became 3rd gear , handling on West Yorkshire’s shocking roads is remarkable. Talk to him he knows his stuff 

http://www.gemzoe.com/about-us

http://www.gemzoe.com/about-us 

 

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Mark,

Not sure where you are but take it to a good suspension 7 specialist. I had similar issues (a CC built car brought from a 7 specialist) and the rack was incorrectly fitted. Had it flat floored at PGM, they found a number of improvements as well as the rack and it totally transformed the car. 

Nick

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Thanks for all the input guys. Ive spoken to a number of the specialist guys, and for me DPR stand out.

Ive being doing a lot of research and 'net reading, and I think Im going to try a set of 6/8"x13" on it before going forward for a full geo....

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There is a lot of experience here and a lot of good advice.

My advice is to go to a specialist, talk to them, take them out or let them take it out. Talk to them about how you use the car, what is critical to you and let them transform the car.

The only check to make before doing this is to check the tyre pressures. Start from 18 psi.

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I was talking wheels and tyres to a specialist today and told him how much I disliked the current drive of my 7....

After getting a quote for new 13" CXR/ZZS for just over a grand, we started to discuss variuos cheaper options...

He said to ditch the current ZV3's on the car and replace them with Yoko AD08r  -something he had done to a simiar spec car to mine with great success....

 

What do you think of this idea chaps ?

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Your ZV3 aren't the best. Hard rubber and I bet yours will be quite old now too so even harder. Different tyres will make a big difference. Various options about too, and opinions on tyres will be vary. I run R888 l. What tyre pressure are you running? That makes a difference.

Going from 14" to 13" would need you to consider the drop in ride height. Do you have adjustable ride height?

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Well,after many, many hours on the 'net, I have been offered a set of new CXR's and Toyo 888r in 185/205x13 and have pretty much decided to bite the bullet.

Time will tell of this (not cheap) option was or is the way forward, but hey, its only money right ?

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