Comp Sec Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Gurston Down hill climb are now accepting entries online - http://www.gurstondownentries.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=3&product_id=4Please note that this event does fill up quite quickly and we have had competitors who have not been successful in previous years.If you are dual driving you can complete both entries on a single checkout.Closing date for entries is 29th April 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comp Sec Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 A great weekend at Gurston with close competition and the normal banter,the results are Gurston Down 2016.pdfwith championship positions after the first 5 rounds 2016 Championship-R05.pdfIf you do spot any errors please feel free to drop me a message . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Thanks Chris Interesting to see no one running away with perfect 100.00s in all the classes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Corker Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I didn't realise that Becky and Gill were still Novices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comp Sec Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 Thanks Geoff, corrected the column look up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon.Rogers Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I don't see Myles on the list in Class 2. I'm sure he took 2nd place yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Richard Price Posted May 30, 2016 Area Representative Share Posted May 30, 2016 I don't see Myles on the list in Class 2. I'm sure he took 2nd place yesterdayLikewise, I believe it was "Dave" that took class three.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comp Sec Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 I know my sense of humor is strange but you guys are just bizarre ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Richard Price Posted May 30, 2016 Area Representative Share Posted May 30, 2016 Chris,Ben Stapley, whilst announcing the awards, renamed a couple of competitors..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comp Sec Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 LOL, will teach me to sneak off early for a change, but did get home by 10:30, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leg Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I know you have all probably discussed this ten times, but try as I may I can not work out the reason, so please can someone explain why:Class 4 (competing in different kit from last year) have their PB's from previous years shown on the results sheets.Class 6 (competing in exactly the same kit as they set their PB's in) don't have their PB's shown????Thanks,Lynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leg Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I know you have all probably discussed this ten times, but try as I may I can not work out the reason, so please can someone explain why:Class 4 (competing in different kit from last year) have their PB's from previous years shown on the results sheets.Class 6 (competing in exactly the same kit as they set their PB's in) don't have their PB's shown????Thanks,Lynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comp Sec Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 the original plan was to reset the PB's totally this year along with the records due to the changes in classes, however it was felt this would be unfair to those improving to remove any target.Whilst the class 4 limit has increased to allow R400 & 420R to fit into Class 4 rather than the now unlimited class 5, in real terms all cars currently within Class 4 are the same as last year.We have allowed competitors to submit PB's in previous years declaring that they are correct for the spec & class they are competing in, however no one has actually approached me with that this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon.Rogers Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 This has been confusing me also but given I thought that all PB's should be wiped I thought they were there for reference.It does confuse.Chris the cars or at least some of the cars in Class 4 are not the same and they also have significantly harder tyres. If anyone gets to any record in a class 3 or class 4 car I will buy them a BIG bottle of Bubbly ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comp Sec Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 It's already been agreed at last years dinner that all records are being reset for next year, so all this years class winners will be next years records holders because of the changes. PB's will be a discussion point at the end of year dinner to either leave as they are or reset to this years times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliW Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Right Simon, challenge on for Llys-y-Fran then. I can't see it happening for me anywhere else, but Llys might just be possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 IMHO - PB are PBs irrespective of car class. My PB at Gurston is 32.50, I can get convoluted and say my PB in a class 6 car is 32.90 but My PB is my PB which is 32.50Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comp Sec Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 Rob, for the purposes of the championship PB's are class dependent as they are used for the Edward Lewis. have a look at section 1.6.3 of the regs. I've no problem if somebody wants to propose a change for next years regulations that this can be debated and voted upon, but changing the way we record and use the PB's could either result in anyone moving down a class never being able to improve there PB, or anyone moving up a class walking away with it. At present our PB system is as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted June 2, 2016 Support Team Share Posted June 2, 2016 Hi Chris - So if Gill submits her PBs to you as appropriate for class 6 (our car is unchanged so this is the case), can she compete for Edward Lewis?That would be great.Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Chris - yes sorry I wasn't really thinking about that, you are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comp Sec Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 Shaun, I can see no issue with that, as the car met the current Class 6 specification when the times were set.We had a similar scenario when we split the old Class 5 into Class 5 & 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leg Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Thanks Guys,But yes my point was really why are competitors in Class 3&4 where the cars are different from before eligible for the ELC (albeit with little hope), but competitors in Class 6 are not eligible for ELC. So thanks for confirming that Class 6 competitors whose cars met Class 6 specification when the times were set can retain their PB's.Lynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comp Sec Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 Lynn,it's not about class 6 competitors not being eligible, but about anyone moving class.The default position is that the PB's are tied to the class they were set in, if anyone feels that the times which were set in another class are applicable to where they are competing now then they can ask for it to be considered.For example someone competing in Class 1 , then subsequently competing in Class 5 in an R500, would not be in the spirit of the regulations to allow the Class 1 PB to be carried into Class 5.It's always been the case that we have tried to work with competitors rather impose, and i'm only an email or phone call away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david nelson Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Chrisas someone who is not in the EDward Lewis group due to class jumping my observation The current class 6 is the same as the old class 5. Same tyres same spec cars just with FHR. The championship has just changed the class number not the spec.if I got this wrong sorry.i can see the logic of keeping all PB in all classes. Class 1 and 2 should be slower due to no tyre warming.class 3 slower due to tyres and no tyre warmingclass 4 more bhp but less grip tyres and no tyre warmingclass 5 new class so no ELclass 6 as per old class 5class 7 same as old 6I do however think class records need resetting as they no longer representative of the classes. david Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumster Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I'm one of the few 'affected' as my current class 6 car is the same as the car I was running in Class 4 with the exception that I now wear a FHR i.e same cage, same tyres so Comp Sec has let me carry my Class 4 PBs forward to class 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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