EFA Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 Laurence, OK my comments apply to the Orange colour that McLaren painted all their F1 cars for about 20 years. This paint is a bad choice if you do not keep the car in a dark garage for most of its life, hence why Caterham will not supply cars using this or any other Dayglo paint. Now the paint Caterham's paint shop TSK use to paint Sevens is not Sikkens but Glasurite, as they source all their paints from a singlke supplier. If Sikkens is £50 per litre thats of litle help unless you get someone inexperienced in painting Sevens to paint it. None of the paint manufacturers should guarantee against fading as this paint will fade, very quickly if the vehicle is stored in daylight. Dayglo hold the rights to the pigmentation used in all flourescent applications including Stabillo markers etc. They certainly do not guarantee their pigmementation for very long at all (I once tried to get a Dayglo Green for my car though DayGlo Corp in the US) The Sikkens stuff is used on Dynorods Vans - it does not take long to see the money ios better spent on the more stable Glasurit system. The Glasurit system uses a UV protective laquer of a special formula specifically for the Glasurit flourescent system. The two Superlights which were painted Dayglo yellow used the Sikkens laquer as a cost saving exercise on Glasurite base, and the finish faded badly in a matter of weeks. Fat Arn See a meaty Vauxhall car here See the Le Mans Trip Website here See the Lotus Seven Club North Kent Website here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted August 1, 2001 Share Posted August 1, 2001 well as my name got mentioned a while back and I am only just catching up the offical colour caterham would not do my car in was 'Marlboro Red' which is a day glo, in the end it was painted Lotus 'Chrome orange' which is a metalic orange found on MK1 Elises pictures at http://www.margel.net/caterham Caterham are picking it up today to see if they can get the bloody thing to start :-( Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Carmichael Posted August 1, 2001 Share Posted August 1, 2001 Well, I am the happy owner of an almost 4 year old Dayglo (Marlboro Orange/Red) Superlight and I have protected the paint from fading by keeping it covered in a layer of muck and corruption every time it emerges from the garage. When I clean it people complain that it is hideously bright and cannot imagine it has ever been brighter. The only paint fading I have experienced has been on the nose and wings which have faded to a complete dimpled black colour... Don't pay any heed to the vicious rumour that I knocked off the corners and had to replace with Arnie's finest natural carbon fibre components... smile.gif Seriously now, looking under the wheel arches confirms that the colour has faded, but it doesn't look bad in any conventional sense. When the time comes for a respray or a reskin I will go direct to TSK and plump for the same colour again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elie boone Posted August 1, 2001 Share Posted August 1, 2001 Arnie, You are right that dayglo fades and very fast without varnish protection but also important is the undercoat witch must be mixing white. But frankley i do not care if the paint fades or not as long as they sponser my seven by a donation every last week of the month. wink.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted August 1, 2001 Share Posted August 1, 2001 Aha Ellie a professional connection.... Peter, isn't it about time you told the "I've got a great colour for my car that'll really go well with carbon fibre story"??? Thats the only time I ever saw you lost for words..... Fat Arn See a meaty Vauxhall car here See the Le Mans Trip Website here See the Lotus Seven Club North Kent Website here Edited by - fat arnie on 1 Aug 2001 20:07:17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Carmichael Posted August 2, 2001 Share Posted August 2, 2001 Sorry Arnie, but I am at a complete loss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted August 2, 2001 Share Posted August 2, 2001 I thinks its something to do with Marlboro Orange and me saying "oh like this one".... Fat Arn See a meaty Vauxhall car here See the Le Mans Trip Website here See the Lotus Seven Club North Kent Website here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Riches Posted August 12, 2001 Share Posted August 12, 2001 Well guys sorry to drag this to the top again, but it did seem to degenerate into a discourse on the longevity, or not, of paint types, and colours, so what are the chassis differences of a 'cycle engined Caterham and a real Caterham!!!!Does it pick up with the same mounting points, is gearbox mount different, what's the problems likely to be in retro fitting to an earlier chassis? (1982). Is there a variation between the various chassis for the range of motorcycle engines, or , is it just the form of the mounting hardware, be real interested for some info, got to retire the X-flow some time. Regards Nigel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V7 SLR Posted August 12, 2001 Share Posted August 12, 2001 It's completely different. Gearboxes are mounted in the tunnel in a "normal" Caterham, whereas the bike engine and box sits in the engine bay. It's a re-engineering job to get a bike engine to fit in your crossflow chassis. Don't forget the reverser box, which sits in the forward part of the tunnel. Don't think I'd attempt this conversion myself. Speak to someone who's already done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd Posted August 22, 2001 Share Posted August 22, 2001 Nigel If you're interested in what is required to convert to bike power(as I was before seeing this site!) - have a look at these guys converting their Sylvas from crossflow to 'blade or similar power http://biketransplant.tripod.com/ I'll wait to see if there is a Whiting kit I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1400rs_0of30 Posted August 27, 2001 Share Posted August 27, 2001 paul gave me a blast in the pre-production fireblade 2 weeks ago. It was totally fantastic i can tell you. Luckily paul looks after my 1.4k road sport (original pre production prototype 0 of 30) so that got me the ride. I was well impressed, between 4 and 10k on the rev counter is was pure performance, he didnt need to go over 10k, says there is not that much pull after it. If i had to choose again which caterham to buy this would be at the top of my list Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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