Exact position of fog light - reverse light

[Jumpin Jack Flash]

Hi everyone,

After a lot of thought, I decided to put 2 fog lights on the back panel of my 2004 K Series. BTW, I like the eighties - early nineties style with 2 fog lights and like that, the rear end will be symmetrical.

Since there are no holes in the rear panel, I need to know the exact position used on factory build cars. Would someone be so kind to measure the distance between the fog and reverse light and the distance between the lower tube and the underside of the fog and reverse light.

Measurements please on a car without spare wheel.

Thx

JJF

[DJ.]

I always preferred the earlier cars with fog and reversing lights below the rear panel on brackets. It is easier to mount them vertically and saves drilling holes in a nice new panel

[Jumpin Jack Flash]

Hi DJ,

I have been thinking about putting them there, CC did it only for 2 years approximately.

But I hate an asymmetrical view, so I am going for the look of the 1992 JPE. Meaning 2 fog lights and no reverse.

I also think that mounting them low increases the changes of damage.

Cheers

JJF

[Drumster]

JJF,

When I rebuilt my 7 in 2007/08 I had Bruce at Arch weld the old style brackets onto the chassis under the rear skin as I much preferred the 'clean' rear panel. never had a problem with damage to either light in this position.

[Paul Deslandes]

[Paul Deslandes]

 

Sorry, last post should have included photo.

Paul

[ECR]

Old style brackets ?...  

Not fitted to a 1990 chassis, or indeed to Paul's 95 apparently

[Drumster]

Sorry Roger, can't offer more info I'm afraid. I remember seeing them a long time ago and when I mentioned them to Bruce he knew what I meant, so maybe pre 90s? They're just (from memory) tubes about 25mm long with an ID of M5 and fitted to the bottom of the struts that the petrol tank sits on.

[Paul McKenzie]

Mine has them - '96 VX HPC

[Jumpin Jack Flash]

Hi Paul, hi everyone,

Thanks for the measurements and the picture.

Your VX HPC had a spare wheel carrier, I have the impression that cars built without that, have the fog lights a little bit closer. We' ll start with 27" and see how it looks.

Cheers

JJF

[Jumpin Jack Flash]

Hi again,

Concerning the brackets to mount the lights below, they are also available at CC.

They were only used from 1996 until perhaps 1998. The red Superlight demonstrator had them at the end of 1996 / beginning 1997.

Caterham started to mount 2 fog lights and the Wipac reverse lights on the wings from 1980 - 1981. In 1996 they changed to 1 fog light and 1 reverse light. Later these were mounted on the rubber wedges for SVA / IVA purposes.

Cheers

JJF

[Wrightpayne]

Couple of points....

The back panel is thin - be very careful when drilling as its easy to puncture the fuel tank.

What about having two clear reverse lights and put a red bulb in the fog light?

Ian

 

[Jumpin Jack Flash]

Hi Ian,

Thanks for the warning, I know the risk. Elie is doing the work on my car, not enough time. It is even worse, since there is a protection around and under the fuel tank, he has to loosen up the tank to get the bolts and wiring into place.

Good idea about the clear lenses, but I am very old fashioned. I like the clear rear lights on the white R500, but it is not going to work on my car.

Cheers

JJF

[Wrightpayne]

I replaced the nut and bolt with rivnuts in back panel to aid removal. I think I had to dremmel the inside of the light unit to remove the hex hole to hold the bolt.

Ian

[TomB]

I can recommend rivnuts as above. It's not too difficult to damage the fog light units, and if you ever spill fuel on them they become brittle. With a nut and bolt, replacement is very tricky as you have to move the fuel tank forward, which is made even harder if you have ali honeycomb around the tank. When you got the holes drilled in the correct place, insert the rivnuts and dremel as above.

[elie boone]

There are easy ways to prevent you from drilling the fuel tank, it's a bit more difficult if there is about 5 mm of filler. if you use a bolt with Allen head that will fit inside the hexagon recess.