CageyH Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 I have a '04 plate E46 320D. What oil should I use for op ups? Only dead fish go with the flow....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrelevant Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 5W-40 synthetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Walker Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Hi Kevin, I have run a 320D for three years. 0W30 is the recomended viscosity BMW advise the use of Castrol fully syth long drain oil. I recon using the correct viscosity is important with this engine or your turbo may fail. Rob Edited by - Rob Walker on 26 Dec 2007 14:42:57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorgen Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 I attended a tech seminar on oil a while ago. The people from Castrol said that for the modern turbo diesel engines, especially those from BMW and VW you should stay with the recommended oil spec. It is not only the viscocity but also the additives that makes the difference so be careful to look for the right BMW specification. Edited by - Jorgen on 26 Dec 2007 15:38:53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CageyH Posted December 26, 2007 Author Share Posted December 26, 2007 Thanks guys! I'll go shopping for some Castrol tomorrow. I take it is the Castrol Edge 0W-30 I am after? Only dead fish go with the flow....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrelevant Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Assumed 5w-40 as that is what bro puts in his 320D (it's supplied by the dealer) but according to Opie Oils you can use......... 1. Castrol Edge Sport for modern engines 0w-40 - £38 (per 4L) 2. Fuchs Titan GT1 zinc free synthetic BMW LL04 5w-30 - £37 3. Motul 8100 X-clean 5w-40 - £28 4. Motul BMW Specific LL-04 5w-40 - £27 5. Amsoil Synthetic Oil (AFL) 5w-40 - £44 6. Castrol Edge for modern engines 5w-30 - £43 7. Castrol Edge TD for modern performance diesel engines 0w-30 - £43 8. Castrol Edge TD 5w-40 for advanced diesel engines - £34 Only the Fuchs Titan GT1 and Motul BMW specific LL04 are specifically for LL04 BMW engines. Best to use the correct oil, even for top-ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul jacobs Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 A bit of a hijack here, but on the topic of oils for Beemers, I was horrified to be charged over £90 by the main dealer for oil in my 3.0D X5 recently, and vowed to supply my own from hereon in, can anyone give me a steer on what oil meets BMW's spec for this engine please? Paul J. Loud pipes save lives, but quiet ones save your hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgrigsby Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 What year Paul? there are three different 3.0D models it seems, if you go to here there is a wizard thingy that will point you in the right direction. Rob G www.SpeedySeven.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CageyH Posted December 26, 2007 Author Share Posted December 26, 2007 Adam, Thanks for the list Castrol edge is LL04 approved as well. I'll have a look to see what I can find in Feu Vert tomorrow. Only dead fish go with the flow....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Walker Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Kevin, I use Comma SynerZ 0W30 and change it every 5000 miles. I do not like the idea of 1000miles on the same oil as its like printers ink. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CageyH Posted December 26, 2007 Author Share Posted December 26, 2007 Rob, I was going to do mine every 9,000 Km (ish). 20,000 Km is way too much for my liking. Oil is relatively cheap compared to a new turbo! I will see what I can find tomorrow in the way of 0W30. I'll pop into BMW for a new filter as well. Only dead fish go with the flow....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sopris Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 If you don't mind buying 20 litres at a time check out http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Juing-Oil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul jacobs Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Thanks for the hijack Cagey, and ta for the link Rob, it's given me the info I need. Paul J. Loud pipes save lives, but quiet ones save your hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 My 185k 51 plate 320d has never had a drop of oil needed between servicing I've covered 50k miles in it And the indicators work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 ahh but how did you run it in here is C7 TOP Taffia rear gunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul jacobs Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Can you really rag the hell out of a brand new car and expect it to last longer and go faster? Paul J. Loud pipes save lives, but quiet ones save your hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sopris Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 go faster - yes. last longer - probably not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 The oil you are paying a lot for is specially designed for a long service interval, it is burnt off [easy way of explaining it] taking away deposits that would normally end up in the filter and sticking to your engine parts increasing the need for an oil change. Millions of pounds worth of research goes into this and even then the manufactures suggest a safe time to change the oil rather than leaving it to the last minute. By topping up you are adding fresh oil anyway. If your car has a thirty thousand mile service interval stick to it, the plugs and filters are designed to last the same time, the idea being to just have one service rather than three in a given period, simple. Helping and encouraging others rather than putting them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millsn Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Must say that mine sounded like tthe proverbial bag o' nails pre oil change and with new oil it's much happier. Indeed the vanos seems to work on new oil but not on old. i nolnw run with 5W 40 rather than the -30 I suspect the dealer puts in and the car's much happier. Must say i am not a great believer in LL oils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Walker Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Phil, I understood that the long drain oils had an additive that kept the carbon deposits in suspension and prevented them settling out as sludge? The cynic in me thinks that the car manufactures do not want there car engines to last too long and have a vested interest in you replacing your car also they want to show that there cars have low running costs. I do a lot of short journeys so do not fill with long drain oil but prefer to change it every 5000 miles. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 my mercedes did 22500 miles (70% motorway) before the first oil change/ service was required on the dashboard compooter thingy. If it was my car, and it wasnt going back to the lease company in 12 months time I would have changed it at about 8/10,000. here is C7 TOP Taffia rear gunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CageyH Posted December 30, 2007 Author Share Posted December 30, 2007 My thoughts exactly I intend to keep this one for a while, so what harm is there in changing the oil and filter? I will use a BMW filter, so the garage won't know any difference. Only dead fish go with the flow....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sopris Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 All this oil change interval stuff provokes lots of thoughts and opinions. My personal thoughts - the quality of the oil and how you treat your engine at start-up (and shut-down if a turbo) is more important than the oil change interval. I have a 99 328i that I've had from new. It now has 126K miles with the oil changed every ~15K miles. I've sent oil samples off to a lab for analysis after the last two changes and both times its come back with no significant amount of wear metals or contaminants present and plenty of lubrication qualities remaining. I keep the engine load down (no more than about one third throttle and 3K rpms) until 10 minutes after the coolant's up to temp. After that it sees the redline as required to maintain the driver's desired rate of forward progress. I cringe when I hear someone harshly blip the throttle on a cold engine or tear out of the pub car park redlining the engine in 2 or 3 gears after a club meet. So, just one person's opinion. Edited by - sopris on 30 Dec 2007 11:09:47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipper man Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 I think you guys are too cynical about the desire for manufacturers to replace engines. If you stick to their recommendations you will have an engine that lasts longer than you will care about IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CageyH Posted December 30, 2007 Author Share Posted December 30, 2007 I still want the car in over 5 years time. What us the harm in replacing the oil more frequently? Only dead fish go with the flow....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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