Thanks all, will have a go later this week when I have some support on the brake pedal Also currently have a slight squeak i think from the fromt brakes when doing about 40mph, it sounds like a canary so not consistent, will check pads but think they are OK, wondered if I had warped front discs? Also brakes squeal but only intermitently, so is the trick copper grease on the back of the pads? Thanks in advance