Thanks for all the replies- does the oil filter need to be removed and the starter?- doesn't seem much wiggle room on that side of the engine- and looking under the roller barrels there seems to be part of the loom that seems to run between the side of the engine and the cable bracket of the barrels- does it have a connector somewhere? hi John- I've borrowed David M's hoist and equaliser- so I'm sorted on that score thanks- but not sure if it's best to get a couple of stropes or try to get some engine hooks that would fit a duratec. May well take you up on the gearbox bung though! cheers johnny