Beagler Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 I know theres a lot of threads on batteries but find it all a little confusing. So, whats the best replacement that fits straight in. I looked at PVR25/PC680 GEL BATTERY is this a good alternate to Banner and will it fit size and cable wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Kay Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Good morning.I think that's all covered in "What's the best battery these days?".And I've answered over there. Happy to receive supplementaries. : - )`Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted January 23, 2022 Leadership Team Share Posted January 23, 2022 Are you experiencing problems with your Banner?Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisC Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 In my opinion after reading years of battery chat, If your looking for a straight swap, unbolt, drop in replacement stick with the banner. Weight savings are definitely available, but you have to find a battery mounting solution or possible cable terminal changes in combination with your new battery. All doable but more faff than a straight replacement. Also consider why your banner died, if it was due to deep discharge damage, some very light weight replacements get very unstable in that situation. Can you vouch for your banners history, did it get deep discharged by a previous owner, or while sitting at a dealer lot. So is the battery the problem or the use case? Finally some alternatives may also require a different charger. Never had a problem with a banner, but know I am in the minority, they give reasonable life considering it's designed for a lawnmower. Yes I could lose some weight with a battery swap, but I could also just loose some weight :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted January 23, 2022 Leadership Team Share Posted January 23, 2022 Chris, likewise I didn't have any issues with the Banners on my previous car, it was 11 years old when I sold it and only on its second battery.By comparison when I bought my SLR it had already been fitted with a PC535 which struggled so I replaced it with a PC680, at the time the car was putting out 244bhp so I assumed the battery wasn't up to the job. The PC680 didn't last as long as I thought but having made a cradle to take the larger 680 it was easier to replace with the same. And then again. I've now had the SLR for 14 years and including the battery it had when I bought it, I've now had 4 Odyssey batteries.The Odysseys are good batteries but in my (limited) experience they don't last any longer than a Banner which is a perfectly good battery for most Seven applications. Hence my question to the OP at post #3, are there problems with the current Banner?Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beagler Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 Thanks guys think I will stick with the banner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Kay Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 I wouldn't choose to use an unsealed battery in any car. Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benton Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Could be worse.... you could have the opportunity of replacing the all singing dancing lightweight lithium battery in the Lotus Exige that according to "official" Lotus parts costs a mere £1462.50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Kay Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Hadn't seen that one!But I would appreciate more suggestions and experiences with lithium batteries to add to these. I'm sure that there must be more Members who have switched...Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beagler Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 My car is only 2 years old but as it was Caterhams it spent a lot of time idle in the showroom/Storage. I want to rule out battery damage as a result so hence the replacement . As its only £60 odd pounds it gives peace of mind to replace. I only do 3000 ish miles per year and have a trickle charger so dont really need anything elaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vine Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 I've also had good experiences with the Banner, and my current one is still going strong at 7+ years. I attribute that to my Accumate conditioning charger....and have a trickle charger...Is that a conditioning charger (such as Optimate or Accumate) ?JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beagler Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 Its an Optimate 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vine Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Optimate 4A good choice, I would have thought. My Accumate is now 15 years old. I note that the latest version is labelled as AGM, GEL and STD, whereas mine states just STD -- due to its age, no doubt?JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 JMT HJTX20H-FP Li-on for me hooked to a NOCO conditionerBattery weighs 1.4kgHandles a 13:1 CR Duratec with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisA Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Also had good experience with Banner, at least five years. With an intelligent trickle charger they seem fine. You can add an overflow tube (for a few pence) if not fitted but not sure that is really necessary.Isn't checking the electrolyte level one of the many pleasures of owning this type of car ?BTW Recommend Tanya for batteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Kay Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 "My Accumate is now 15 years old. I note that the latest version(link is external) is labelled as AGM, GEL and STD, whereas mine states just STD -- due to its age, no doubt?"Yes.For anyone buying a smart conditioning charger make sure that it has enough oomph for the biggest battery on which you're going to use it and enough modes for all of them. Nowadays that will probably include AGM and might include lithium.Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Kay Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 "BTW Recommend Tanya for batteries."Thankyou, but: ; - )Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph45 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 #4 completely agree just stick with the banner battery with about 5/7 years life span from what I can see it's the easy option ?Maybe a more modern way to put it into context is it works out at little more than one individual takeaway meal a year and maybe a cup of fashionable coffee over the lifetime of the battery. But it is nice to tinker with our toys, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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