Grubbster Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Just saw , a really good video of fireworks from above and within the display! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wile7 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 That's brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Excellent. Let's have it in 3D next time, though 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark-G Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Very good Thanks for posting Steve Angus come on you know you want to fly yours through explosives. *smile* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Just a small reminder for him that this would be a criminal offence in New York State... no idea about New Jersey though What a great video concept! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caterhamnut Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 haha - I saw this! Mixed views - it is an amazing video - stunning, and I would try it in a flash. However, there is always a 'no-fly' zone at these events, and many many people below. Sadly, there have been a few well publicized incidents with muppets flying and then crashing in stupid places, like Times Square - or bouncing off buildings in Manhattan before crashing onto the sidewalk - these things are not small and light! Really is a case of the few spoiling it for the many...multi-rotor flyers are getting a bad name amongst the RC crowd for spoiling it for everyone else, who have been happily flying FPV for years... So right now, there is a lot of stink about the fact that the FAA are trying to ban them - or specifically FPV flying. The press seems to have it in for the drones, doing their usual sensationalism when ever they can... Before the July 4th fireworks here in NYC, I had commented to someone that it would be amazing to fly through and film, just like this video! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_village_idiot Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Quoting angus&tessa: haha - I saw this! Mixed views - it is an amazing video - stunning, and I would try it in a flash. However, there is always a 'no-fly' zone at these events, and many many people below. Sadly, there have been a few well publicized incidents with muppets flying and then crashing in stupid places, like Times Square - or bouncing off buildings in Manhattan before crashing onto the sidewalk - these things are not small and light! Really is a case of the few spoiling it for the many...multi-rotor flyers are getting a bad name amongst the RC crowd for spoiling it for everyone else, who have been happily flying FPV for years... So right now, there is a lot of stink about the fact that the FAA are trying to ban them - or specifically FPV flying. The press seems to have it in for the drones, doing their usual sensationalism when ever they can... Before the July 4th fireworks here in NYC, I had commented to someone that it would be amazing to fly through and film, just like this video! They are certainly heavy. And some of the propellers are bloody sharp and strong- the carbon ones. Dropping from the sky with the rotors could really hurt someone. Bad scratches and a concussion would be probable if flying over a crowd- but if you hit an elderly person or the multirotor was a fairly large one weighing a few kg it could kill if it hit you on the head. The blades could even alive an artery if vvvv unlucky. However- in this specific vid he was flying above water so it was very safe as far as the public were concerned. If he wants to risk £500 of kit that's up to him. Planes are inferior for taking that kind of footage, but they won't drop straight out of the sky. You have some glide control and can avoid the public if needs be. However- the no fly rule really applies to manned aircraft in case they got shot down by a firework (!) if you're at no risk to someone- why not?! Re the RC crowd. Many are old stuffy folk who have been in it for 30 years. They are anti anyone stirring the pot. But *someone* will. So you may as well come up with some sensible laws now IMO. The problem with the various aircraft governing bodies is many of the laws don't specifically deal with RC and unmanned amateur stuff. They have a fairly poor understanding of what some people can do too. And the technology is racing forwards at an alarming rate. Banning it has happened in some countries. But people will still do it. It's a huge game changer too. Horse fans probably tried to prevent the car from developing but it wasn't gonna happen. Whilst the drone thing isn't as big as that- within 20 years there will routinely be drones in the streets illuminating dark alleys etc IMO. The potential for harm and good is huge IMO. The potential for terrorist attacks is scary. More scary than the fpv is the GPS IMO. Set a drone to fly to no10 any walk away........ I suspect they will be banned in all cities without full professional licences and insurance. Outside of that there will probably be weight and altitude limits for the craft and broadcast limits to ensure you don't interfere with someone's TV/ wi fi etc. But It will be very difficult to enforce these outside of populated areas. On a side note- I think the press have tainted the word "drone"- but it has less of an evil name than it did even a year ago. The more people see the good they can do- such as amateur videos above- the better. Also IME the public are amazed by the videos and tech- online and in the flesh. It's the RC lot and the flight bodies who are most worked up about safety and privacy. I think the novelty will wear off a little for many eventually. When you have bought your drone- which will practically fly itself soon- and have videoed you house and maybe a few nice places near you- what else is there to do? Maybe you try and video a mates wedding etc- but after that- it's expensive and fairly anti social. They will become cheaper and cheaper however and they will only increase in popularity for a while IMO. Edited by - the_village_idiot on 7 Jul 2014 21:41:26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caterhamnut Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Agree with most of that. But over here in the Land of the Free, there seems to be a much more concerted effort to ban, limit etc and the 'public' is getting a bad image. I now wait for people to disappear before I fly, on the odd occasion I manage to get out of the city to do so! Missing the English countryside for this hobby.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red SLR Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 The problem with the various aircraft governing bodies is none of the laws specifically deal with RC and unmanned amateur stuff. They have a fairly poor understanding of what some people can do too. Going to have to disagree with you on that point - the CAA have been great with allowing FPV in the UK and they are listening to people in the community and improving the ANO as and where they can - the recent increase from 400ft to 1000ft being a brilliant step for most of us into FPV - it just gives much more space for some real fun flying. And whats better is the CAA have recently started cracking down on the idiots. For once the UK is one of the countries that actually allows people who are responsible to have some fun. And those who want to go down the business route can take their BUNC-S for areal work. The wifi / RF issues are separate IMHO and always have been. 90% of hobby RC guys will use equipment that's UK legal. The other 10% who use higher power stuff tend to fly in rural areas where its not such a problem, and usually on 433mhz too which is well out of the freq of WIFI. In reality the problem is not the RC guy blotting out WIFI or whatever, its the RC guy losing a £3k+ aircraft when he loses radio. But that's the risk we take. My Futaba runs on 2.4ghz and is fully UK legal but its only 100mW. Easy for it to get interference and lose a model. In fact when 2.4ghz first came out about 10 years back the initial limit was 10mW!!! The BMFA took a case to OFCOM and they agreed we could go to 100mW. Again each country is different but I think the UK has some very good rules for people who want to get into the hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_village_idiot Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Quoting angus&tessa: Agree with most of that. But over here in the Land of the Free, there seems to be a much more concerted effort to ban, limit etc and the 'public' is getting a bad image. I now wait for people to disappear before I fly, on the odd occasion I manage to get out of the city to do so! Missing the English countryside for this hobby.... 9/11 must have something to do with that I expect. Is it terrorism, privacy, or health and safety that people are most worried about? Which angle have the press tried to taint it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_village_idiot Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Quoting Red SLR: The problem with the various aircraft governing bodies is none of the laws specifically deal with RC and unmanned amateur stuff. They have a fairly poor understanding of what some people can do too. Going to have to disagree with you on that point - the CAA have been great with allowing FPV in the UK and they are listening to people in the community and improving the ANO as and where they can - the recent increase from 400ft to 1000ft being a brilliant step for most of us into FPV - it just gives much more space for some real fun flying. And whats better is the CAA have recently started cracking down on the idiots. For once the UK is one of the countries that actually allows people who are responsible to have some fun. And those who want to go down the business route can take their BUNC-S for areal work. The wifi / RF issues are separate IMHO and always have been. 90% of hobby RC guys will use equipment that's UK legal. The other 10% who use higher power stuff tend to fly in rural areas where its not such a problem, and usually on 433mhz too which is well out of the freq of WIFI. In reality the problem is not the RC guy blotting out WIFI or whatever, its the RC guy losing a £3k+ aircraft when he loses radio. But that's the risk we take. My Futaba runs on 2.4ghz and is fully UK legal but its only 100mW. Easy for it to get interference and lose a model. In fact when 2.4ghz first came out about 10 years back the initial limit was 10mW!!! The BMFA took a case to OFCOM and they agreed we could go to 100mW. Again each country is different but I think the UK has some very good rules for people who want to get into the hobby. Very interesting and I stand corrected :) I still wonder just how well informed they are about what some of these things are capable of. Any examples as to how they have cracked down on the idiots? I was using wi fi as an example- I would imagine it's the lower frequencies which may cause probs- if people choose them for the long range stuff. In truth I'm just on the cusp of getting into fpv- have a friend who is doing the same as me- been reading up on it an awful lot online. Edited by - the_village_idiot on 7 Jul 2014 21:47:28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red SLR Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Any examples as to how they have cracked down on the idiots? Top of my head, last few months. 1.Photographer given a warning over footage provided to BBC after CAA investigation following interview under caution and admission on his part. 2.Individual taken to court and found guilty for flying FPV in a restricted area - large fine (several thousand pounds). 3.Individual taken to court and found guilty for flying FPV outside of the ANO - reasonable fine (few hundred pounds). There are a few others in the pipeline - they are always on the look out, one of the FB groups I am a member of (and at least 3 members of this forum) has a warning that the CAA monitor the page!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red SLR Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 What are you planning on flying? I suggest TBS Discovery TBS motors and ESCs NAZA M V2 Fatsharks Futaba T8J CL antennas on video side I flew a discovery for about 12 months - rock solid airframe. Just upgraded to a Sky Hero - similar idea to the TBS but 700mm rather than 450mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-B Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Here are some Epic Fail Fireworks Videos that having a drone at wouldn't have made the coverage any better...but they might have been safer than those doing the filming.... Edited by - Steve-B on 8 Jul 2014 09:14:12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Rae Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 The drone film is great. But, , how stupid are some people? *eek* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich N Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 General warning that some of those are not very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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