John Gaines Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I have my new Samsung smart tv in place, what a difference in quality . I have taken a feed trom the scart lead out of the sky box to my hifi but there is a hald second difference between the tv and hifi causing an echo. Is the only soloution to turn the tv sound down? Regards, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Flatters Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Assuming your hi-fi can take it, use the digital coax output from the Sky box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 If it's as much as half a second you'd have really bad lip-sync issues. You're probably better off taking the sound from the TV rather than from the Sky box - much more chance of being in sync that way. The TV should have standard red/white (or red/black) phono sockets for output, or if your hi-fi is a surround sound setup there should be a digital optical connection available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Kay Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 What outputs do you have on your TV, and what inputs on your audio amplifier? (In my experience it's worth having the TV sound off once you have a better system connected. But that can be surprisingly fiddly in practice.) Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FramerateUK Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I use an optical cable to output to my hi-fi (works great with a Chromecast dongle to play music). Don't bother with expensive cables, you'll get no increase in quality since the signal will be digital anyway. I got a cheapish one off Amazon and it works very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazerBrain Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Quoting Jonathan Kay: (In my experience it's worth having the TV sound off once you have a better system connected. But that can be surprisingly fiddly in practice.) Agreed. Often it's better to turn the TV sound all the way down as mute often leaves an icon permanently on the screen. Sometimes you can set the default TV volume to zero - the setting was called 'personal preference' on a previous TV I owned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin H Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I am pretty sure you can alter the sound timing on the sky box settings. Google is your friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ashby Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Quoting FramerateUK: Don't bother with expensive cables, you'll get no increase in quality since the signal will be digital anyway. I got a cheapish one off Amazon and it works very well. Oh - and there we get into a whole different subject - in which the term 'error correction' should not be over-looked........ He light's touch paper and retires to a safe distance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Might not be relevant to Samsung, but my LG has a menu setting to be able to turn the tv speakers off when using external sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Steve Wright Posted June 27, 2014 Area Representative Share Posted June 27, 2014 I do a similar thing with with my Samsung 6000 series TV. Try sending audio from the Sky box to the TV as normal then picking up the sound from the TV to feed the hi-fi (various options here) To adjust the delay for good lip sync: On mine, it's go into setup menu: menu/sound/additional settings/SPDIF output/audio delay To turn of TV speakers: menu/sound/speaker settings/speaker select/external speaker I'd be really interested to hear what sort of quality you get. Music and studio sound is fine but I find some vocals much too woolly. Sort of muffled to a point where it's unacceptable. I suspect the little collar radio mikes that they sometime use. It's so bad that I go back to TV speakers for many things! I have tried all available audio outputs from the TV including optical digital into the Arcam DAC. Let me know how you get on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 We've got a couple of Samsung smart tvs and Sky hd boxes. We leave the tv sound off and take a digital (optical) link from the sky box to the sound bar. You generally do have to faff with the sound delay setting in Sky - and I think there might be something similar in the TV if you decide to take the sound from that (I wouldn't). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 This whole discussion is rather pointless without knowing whether the hi-fi has an optical input. If it's a traditional hifi, it probably won't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Kay Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Myles: Do you only have one source for TV content? I prefer to take the sound from the TV as otherwise I have to switch both the TV source and the sound input to the amplifier. Jonathan Edited by - Jonathan Kay on 27 Jun 2014 13:50:28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Yes, just one source for 99% of usage. We watch a blu-Ray once or twice a year, so no real hassle to sort the sound out that infrequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Kay Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Thanks Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gaines Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 Sorry for delay, I have been working. I will need to check the back of the amplifier when I get home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBreadhead Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 If your tv has a digital optical output take that into a mini DAC which converts signal into 2 phono for the back of the amp. Will need 12v power supply probably. Whole unit costs £40 from Richer. Mine works a treat out the Damsung into a Cambridge Audio. Watching Glasto now and enjoying it in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Quoting McBreadhead: If your tv has a digital optical output take that into a mini DAC which converts signal into 2 phono for the back of the amp. Will need 12v power supply probably. Whole unit costs £40 from Richer. Why? That seems overkill when the TV already has a built-in DAC and analogue audio outputs. Suppose an external DAC might be better quality, but I bet you'd be hard-pushed to tell the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBreadhead Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Cos mine has no analogue outputs. Its all digital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Steve Wright Posted June 30, 2014 Area Representative Share Posted June 30, 2014 John have you sorted this connection out yet? The reason I ask is that I would be interested to hear from you what the sound quality is like. I feed the digital optical output from our Samsung 6000 series Smart TV into the digital optical input on my Arcam AV receiver. To me the sound is unacceptable.It's compressed, wooly, muffled. I thought it was ok on music but tuned into Glastonbury yesterday and could hardly hear what Dolly Parton was saying it was so muffled. None of the sound settings on the TV have an effect on the digital link as you would hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Kay Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Quoting Steve Wright: I feed the digital optical output from our Samsung 6000 series Smart TV into the digital optical input on my Arcam AV receiver. To me the sound is unacceptable.It's compressed, wooly, muffled. I thought it was ok on music but tuned into Glastonbury yesterday and could hardly hear what Dolly Parton was saying it was so muffled.Do you have other sources and cables you can swap in and out to locate the problem? Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Steve Wright Posted June 30, 2014 Area Representative Share Posted June 30, 2014 The sound from DVD, CD, Vinyl (Via good phono pre-amp) and FM are great, really well balanced tonally, dynamic and detailed. DAB is well balanced tonally, though compressed but I understand this is normal. The problem is just TV sound. I have tried connections via SCART (Analogue stereo) and the headphone socket. There are no analogue phono connectors on the TV. Optical digital gives the best results of the three, though not acceptable on most programmes. Some programmes are ok but most are not. I do wonder whether the audio on Digital TV is up to scratch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Kay Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Do you have the full model number? Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Have you checked what Sound Eq setting the TV is set to? It may be on something inappropriate, or a mullerred "Custom" setting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Campbell Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Slightly off topic...but does anyone else have audio/video sync problems with Sky ? BBC 1 can be fine, but the HD channels on Sky are terribly out of sync with the other channels...to the extent sometimes that you can't watch them ! I've been watching the World Cup on HD, then having to switch over to the normal channel at half time for the punditry as the lip sync is so far out !! ...and it doesn't appear consistent either... Sky HD, Onkyo Receiver, Samsung TV (don't use the sound on the TV). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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