Roger Ford Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Do these exist? I have a sticky front (standard) caliper, and thought I should rebuild both. I assumed I'd be able to get a kit consisting of new pistons, seals and boots, but can't find anything appropriate. I believe the calipers are Girling Type 14LF. A source of new/recon GENUINE ones at considerably less than the the £420 Caterham want for a pair might be worth considering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stationary M25 Traveller Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Try a wanted on here. Lots have upgraded and have standard calipers in the garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Walker Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Roger, try Performance Braking in monmouth 01600 713117 or Moss, one should be able to sort you out. IIRC they are off a Triumph Spitfire. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Deslandes Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Have you treid Big Red? I've bought rebuild kits for the rears from them in the past and would be surprised if they don't do the fronts as well. Or Brake Parts. Very good service from them for Isuzu brake calliper slider bolts. Edited by - Paul Deslandes on 18 Jun 2014 12:12:03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6speedmanual Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Or Past Parts? They do all sorts of rebuild kits for old/exotic. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Payne Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Moss Europe is not far from you and they do caliper rebuild kits for Spitfires (which I believe the brakes are from) http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/AboutMoss/ContactUs.aspx?#london Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share Posted June 18, 2014 Thanks for those. I see also Rimmer Bros have them, though 8 quid postage for a set of seals is taking the p a bit. Can't see anything on the Moss website, but I'll tootle out there and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Payne Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Roger - here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbutnotslow Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Roger Just give Mick at Redline a call. He keeps them. Not expensive. It can be a real bugger to get the piston back into the calliper but thankfully a lot easier than the same job on the rear calliper! I did a rear one for a customer and it wound up with him helping by applying pressure to wind it back in at the same time as trying to get the dust deal to stay in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john g Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Got my repair kit from Redline but it was just the seals and dust cover. If the piston is a little 'marked' perhaps a rub with fine grade wet and dry may suffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domus Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 If there is any rust on a piston I would replace it in any rebuild. Changing the pads means the piston is housed deeper in the caliper and the line of rust may cause the piston to stick in or out of the new seal. Happened to me last year on my MX-5. Caliper seized on, turned the disc a nice colour though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zetec Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Roger- Rimmer Bros do refurbed ones for a great price. Mine are as new & work prefect mate! send yours as surcharge etc then they send you some (basically new) one back easy 🥰 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJD Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Roger, I've just replaced my Girling Type 12 front calipers with exchange ones from James Whiting, I'm sure he has type 14 ones as well. Rimmer are a bit cheaper but were out of stock and expensive P&P, howevr I got new springs, pins etc from Rimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 Thanks again - anyone know if the Rimmer / JW ones are refurbished genuine Girling ones, or if they might be pattern parts? Not sure the race regs will allow for pattern parts, however good they might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJD Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Roger, Knowing JW's aversion to anything non genuine, I suspect they are Girling. Mine fitted perfectly and had the right numbers/markings in the casting; but some copies are so good these days it's hard to tell the difference. Give James/Ruth a call I'm sure they can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 Well I finally got around to doing these. JW do genuine refurbs for £150+VAT, but I went for the DIY route and got all the parts from Moss. The seals are genuine Girling. Not sure about the pistons, but they're good quality and fit well, though they're a little more expensive than other options. I was expecting it to be a fairly ghastly job, having done this on bikes before. But actually it was really easy. The pistons popped out easily enough, there wasn't much corrosion, and everything went back together smoothly with a little brake fluid as lube. The trickiest bit was fitting the wire clip to hold the dust seal rubber in place. I already had brake discs which I bought from James Whiting, but it's interesting to note that Moss sell them for £8.75 each. You can even get them delivered for that price by ordering from Moss on ebay. Stupidly cheap - I imagine it will cost most of that to post them. I did buy a pair of discs for when I get around to doing the rears. The machining pattern is quite different (and less obvious) from that on the James Whiting discs. The JW look better to my untutored eye, but I'm not really sure what represents a "good" finish on a disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mankee Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Quoting Roger Ford: I already had brake discs which I bought from James Whiting, but it's interesting to note that Moss sell them for £8.75 each. You can even get them delivered for that price by ordering from Moss on ebay. Stupidly cheap - I imagine it will cost most of that to post them. 😳 Cheap, cheap, like the proverbial budgie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_ASH Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 I find myself with a leaking front caliper and thinking they were cheap looked at the Caterham site only to see £246 (sure it said £260 yesterday), I think I may try the new seals route first or at the very least take the caliper off and assess the job in hand. I'm amazed at the cost of the complete item when a brake upgrade kit is only £700ish!Of course it's a little annoying that a 4 year 4000 mile old caliper should fail in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mankee Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Where is it leaking? I cured a few weepy standard calipers in the past by nipping up the bolts holding the two halves together. New ones are £100 a pair on a popular internet auction site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesElliott Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 If they are standard calipers I have a good stock of spare seals. Rebuilt ones are only about £65 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_ASH Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Mankee - Tomorrow morning's little job is to find out where exactly the leak is but I think it's a piston seal.Charles - Where are the rebuilt ones available from? Looking around on the web I notice they are available from many sources like Rimmers etc.I am correct in assuming the calipers fitted to a 2012 car would still have been Girling type 14's so a seal kit such as this https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/381445610570 would be the right thing to use if req'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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