CSR front wings on an S3

[7 wonders of the world]

Has anyone done this?

 

Can it be done?

 

Will the CSR stays fit an S3,

 

and am I right in that the CSR front wings are around 20mm wider than S3 versions

 

or am I looking at amking my own stays

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Too young to be old !

[Ash.Bailey]

yes

 

yes

 

yes

 

yes

 

no

 

thanks

 

next ! 😬

 

If ^It aint ^yellow, wonky ^and wobbly................ 😬

 

[Mark Durrant]

I have done this and I did make my own stays.

 

IIRC the CSR stays do not fit a S3.

 

Mark D

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[DaveK]

I'm pretty sure i was told that if you reverse the std wing stays side to side ie left stay on right wheel, then this will allow you to fit the CSR wings on the std stays.

 

I may be wrong and the above is completely wrong, but its worth a try.

 

Dave

[7 wonders of the world]

Now I'm even more confused - 3 very different answers

 

Wonky - are you sure the CSR stays will fit an S3 🤔

 

Dave - not sure how you'd use std stays as the CSR wing fitment is different ie 1 stay over the top and 1 bolted flanged on the inside of the wheel thus enabling the snug fit 🤔

 

Mark did you simply rework your S3 stays, is the rear stay in the correct place for the SCR wing 🤔

 

Thanks for your replies guys

 

Too young to be old !

[Mark Durrant]

The only parts I used from the original stay is the boss that bolts through the stub axle and the flat metal plate that bolts through the top mount ands connects the two stay tubes. However, the top plates were switched, the N/S to the O/S and vice versa, then cut down to get the correct angle for the CSR wing fixings. The tubes were new metal that was bent and cut to fit before welding to the boss and top plate.

 

I have heard of the method DaveK describes however, when looking to fit mine I was not happy with this as the rear mount went under the wing and not through the side as per the CSR.

 

Mark D

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Edited by - Mark Durrant on 11 Dec 2007 08:59:42

[7 wonders of the world]

Thanks for that Mark,

 

Understand exactly what you've done now, out of interest what size wheel / tyres are you running at the front, and do you have any piccy's ?

 

Thanks *thumbup*

 

Too young to be old !

[Irrelevant]

I have CSR wings on mine....

 

See here and here.

 

I made the wingstays up myself using bits from standard wingstays and some 4130 I had kicking about. . .. absolute barsteward job it was as well.

 

That's a 215 Kumho on there in the first photo on an 8" Caterham rear rim. I normally use 8" fornt wheels with either 175/530 or 180/550 radial slicks (i.e. CSR race or F3 fronts).

[Mark Durrant]

7WotW

 

I currently run 185/60 x 13 but will be changing to 215/50 x 13 early in the new year. Drop me a Blatmail and I''ll email you some pictures later today.

 

As Adam said not the easiest of jobs and I estimate it took me around 6 hours to fabricate with Peter T's assistance/welding

 

Mark D

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[Jason Plato]

Do you want my csr slicks adam?

[7 wonders of the world]

Mark YHM

 

*thumbup*

 

Too young to be old !

[Irrelevant]

Dave, yes please - I will be over your way at the end of the week - you about Friday evening?

If so, please email me your address and number

 

7WOTW - if you want to put wide fronts on and keep standardish offsets (and maintain steering characteristics) bespoke wingstays are needed (whatever wings you put on them) as the standard wingstays run too close to the inside of the wheel.

[Jason Plato]

Adam

 

you have mail

 

here is C7 TOP

Taffia rear gunner

[7 wonders of the world]

Hi Mark

 

Excellent piccy's, they all arrived safe and sound,

 

 

many thanks for sorting these out, I tried to reply to your mail but I was told 'address does not exist'

 

technology

 

thanks again, *thumbup*

 

 

 

Too young to be old !

[Mark Durrant]

Neil

 

Pleased to hear they arrived OK and good luck with the fabrication

 

Mark D

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[martin b]

I fitted csr wings on my last car, I think they look good

I used 185/60 tyres but agree would look better with wider rubber.

I think you can see them on my sig below as I haven't updated it yet

If you use the car in all weathers or are a polisher I would be careful as I found they throw up a lot more cr*p from the road all over you and the side of the car, water seemed to come out with quite a spray right over the screen too, obviously in a straight line no probs but those bends.... 😬

 

Good luck

 

Martin

 

Edited by - Martin B on 12 Dec 2007 18:15:09

 

Edited by - Martin B on 12 Dec 2007 18:15:47

[martin b]

I will add sig below as it seems I can't add it afterwards

 

Martin

 

L7 BYK Now here

[captain chaos]

I looked at buying the mog wings and they told me if you reversed the stays left to right you could fit their CSR type front wings on the std stays.

[Irrelevant]

captain chaos: That's pretty clever of them if they have actually designed their CSResque wings to fit a reversed std stay

[7 wonders of the world]

Hi Martin,

 

Nice car

 

Out of interest did you fabricate your own stays 🤔 and are they the genuine CC carbon versions 🤔

 

 

cheers

 

Too young to be old !

[captain chaos]

Adam,

Well that's what Graham told me on the phone when I specifically asked about it.

[martin b]

Wings are MOG carbon

I was very fortunate to find some stays taken from a customers car at a local dealership as they were trying to bring the other car back to original spec

They were really nicely fabricated, ask Byker Will the new owner, i'm sure he could send you a couple of piccies if he could prise the cover off and fight his way through the golf trolleys 😬

The back section of the stay could be sleeved and you could have an adjustable height front stay to cope with different tyre heights, well thats if you have more time on your hands than me.

Sure the reverse wingstays aren't that easy

 

Martin

 

[BYKer Will]

Martin 7WOTW I will take some at the weekend but don't know how to host them. Martin I might email them to you for your sig. 😬

 

Best

 

Will

[7 wonders of the world]

BYKer Will,

 

Good news on the piccy's, could you blatmail them over to me

 

cheers

 

Too young to be old !

[Irrelevant]

captain chaos: It's just occurred to me that you couldn't possibly use standard stays for MOG's CSR wings as the front stay leg would be too high. They must mean you can use modified reversed standard stays - i.e. with the front leg cut down and a plate welded on.