graearea Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 this one:https://caterhamparts.co.uk/rollcages/7080-rollcage-trackday-for-s3-windscreen.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Linky for you:https://caterhamparts.co.uk/rollcages/7080-rollcage-trackday-for-s3-windscreen.html You will be incredibly lucky to find a used one of these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 I agree with 7WOW - they are a fairly new product so doubt many if any around 2nd hand.Early Safety Devices cages are 200-400 pounds - just need to get the nack of climbing in and out (and ensuring sufficient head to cage clearance in the event of an accident, hence I run a tall version and lowered floor)My cage was an ebay auction win at £79 some years ago which is incredibly cheap for a tall cage - TBH it wasn't advertised very well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graearea Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 yeah I think you're right.I'm going to get one over winter, just need to put the order in with Caterham I guess and then wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Do they even make them for Imperial cars? Since they're quite recent, I imagine they're only for metric cars. Not sure if they can be made to fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graearea Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 Yep. The link is for the imperial version. I'm err, fairy sure mine is imperial. 2007 R400 S3. It has a serial number stamped on it where arch would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 2006 was the transition year my previous car was April 2006 and ordered in Sept 2005 and I was given the option on Metric or Imperial chassis - Arch every time for me..Metric cars have chassis number on right upper chassis rail visible with bonnet removed and a much squarer pedal box and short diagonals under the bonnet to - and MIG welded jointsImperial have VIN on back edge of pedal box under the brake pipe and last 4 digits of the order number along with the jig number on the boss behind the drivers right shoulder, long diagonals and beautiful bronze welded joints.Back to the cage - you may if your lucky find and SLR if you ring the race teams, these afford more internal room and easy to get in thro the top if you a simple step on the read side mount (A BMX stunt peg) these offer more protection and increased rigidity too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Are you sure? They only seem to list two - one for "S3" and one for "SV (metric)". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Nick Chan Posted August 22, 2022 Area Representative Share Posted August 22, 2022 They do make them for imperial S3 cars as one has been fitted very recently to a car in our group. As they are made for special order I suppose they can be manufactured for either variant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fast_cat Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 HiI have one for sale. I bought it secondhand a few years ago and have had it fitted on my 1998 SLR. Its currently off the car.Its painted in kawasaki green and was this color when i bought it , and it has additional mirrors, headrest and an MSA/FIA approved sticker. It has high front to back side bars unlike the one on the Caterham siteLooking for £400. If its not for you then i may decide to try and sell it with my SLR which will be on sale in about a weekI can post some photos if i can work out how to include them or else i can send some.Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graearea Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 So I've been offered this:which looks exactly what I want apart from the side bars. it has the reinforcement at the front unlike the Superlight cage. I'm probably going to call Caged who made it but anyone know if I can just...... angle grind the sidebars off?I'm fully aware it won't be as useful as it is, but I'm not racing, I just don't want the range rover that I'm going under to chop my head off when I forget to stop indicating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 I think you might have stumbled across something here, a cheaper option :-)I'd do it, recognising the current value of the cage is severely diminished.Only thing I'm not sure of is whether there would be holes drilled in the tubes behind the cross pieces you cut off? (To prevent Pressure build up when welding??) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team Shortshift Posted August 26, 2022 Leadership Team Share Posted August 26, 2022 Graearea - I really don't want to open a fresh can of worms on the topic of trackday rollover bars but, as a member of the Club's trackday team, I should point out that a cage modified in this manner would not be acceptable for use on Club trackdays.I have no idea if that might matter to you or not, but I thought it might be helpful to be clear up front. The Club's trackday rules (TSRR documents are accessible in the 'Trackdays' area of the site) explain what is required and allowed.Hope that is helpful!James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtBuddha Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Interesting thread for me, as I ordered a new Track Day cage (double D without side bars) for my Imperial car from Caterham last month. I was told it wasn't a problem to order one for an Imperial car and would take the usual approx 10-12 weeks. On the subject of modifying an existing cage, for me, the jury is out. If the side bars were chopped off and the remnants sensibly flattened off on the green cage above I cant see how it would be much different than a new Track Day cage, so long as the tubing spec and tube junctions are the same. If done properly it would surely be safer than a simple rear roll bar which there are plenty of on track.... It always shocks me that so many owners are prepared to drive their cars on track with only a rear roll bar rather than proper cage. If they're only driving at 7/10ths or so then so be it, but if pushing on, which is presumably why they're on track in the first place... Gulp! As for not being eligible for Club track days, it's understandable that any cage that's been modified should be disallowed as the modifications could seriously compromise its structural integrity/safety in case of accident (which is why you have a roll cage in the first place). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graearea Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 yeah thinking about this. it does seem like a bad idea.oh well. back to the drawing board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 #13James - has the new cage offering from Caterham, with open sides, been approved by the club for trackday use? I know we went through a technical exercise a few years ago concerning roll bars.If done well I doubt you'd be able to tell if it was a modified FIA cage or a trackday cage albeit I understand the position of the club.Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team Shortshift Posted August 26, 2022 Leadership Team Share Posted August 26, 2022 Yes Ian, the 'trackday' or 'open' cage is approved for use on Club trackdays.James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_h Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 #15 I'm after one like the green one for myself. Do you know if they are up for selling it or was it a deal for yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fast_cat Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 HiThe 'green' one as shown in the earlier post is available for sale. If you are interested i can send some more pics Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_h Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Yes please. I'll send some info via pm for you to send the pictures to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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