Blackmamba Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Picking up from another thread on road charging, my 2003 K series R400 was originally showing as ULEZ compliant and then switched to non-compliant when ULEZ went live for the wider London area last year. The V5 does not show any emission data and I am not sure if any of the cars are Euro 4 compliant (I suspect not).I know the results can be variable and some people have found their K-Series cars to be ULEZ compliant (can be checked here https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/check-your-vehicle/). If so, any idea what it was based on e.g. Euro 4, date, NOx data etc.?The ULEZ requirements are to be Euro 4 compliant or have NOx levels at or below 0.08g/km. I'm not optimistic of getting under that but has anyone requested a Certificate of Conformity from Caterham and got one back? I recently did this for another car I have, CoC showed under the limit and TFL updated the car to compliant status.Any ideas / feedback would be appreciated.Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 The R400K is not approved to any Euro norm. I guess with the batched injection and the location of the catalyst you'll struggle to make it pass an appropriate test. EU3 may be within reach, but that's about it. I think the SAIC K-series (L-series) was updated to EU4, but that would not be in Caterham trim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_h Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 No uk caterham has a CoC. This is for type approved vehicles only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmamba Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share Posted March 29, 2022 Thanks both, that makes sense.What I can't figure out them is why some K series Caterhams are ULEZ compliant and how they are being assessed if there is no CoC / emissions data?For example, a random reg I looked at on the net was R70DJA (2006 K series Caterham) which is ULEZ compliant. Same for FN06DYT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_h Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 The system probably cant cope with anything but 'normal' cars so anything that has a registration date post EU4 introduction is just assumed to be ok. Its probably not worth the effort to update it for the few cars this allows to escape the charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul D Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 I don't live near London and have no intention of taking any car there ever if I can help it but sticking my 1.6 K series 2008 plate into that link above indicates I don't have to pay an emissions charges, just the congestion charge. Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 2008 would be EU4 in real world of cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardybits Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 I'll be living in the expanded ULEZ next year and my 2002 k-series won't comply. So am looking at upgrading, just popped a 2019 Caterham reg into the checker and it's not compliant. My mate has just purchased a 2013 and it is. What the feck is going on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted August 27, 2022 Member Share Posted August 27, 2022 Previous discussion including a reclassification.Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 What engine was the 2019 that you put the reg in for? My 2014 310R is certainly compliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardybits Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Hi Roger, Pistonheads 270S https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13818020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadsport06 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 TfL website gives no charge on this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardybits Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Must be Congestion charge not ULEZ, my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_w Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 I live in the ULEZ zone and can confirm my 2010 Sigma is ULEZ exempt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmamba Posted August 28, 2022 Author Share Posted August 28, 2022 Looks radically different to your current car Andy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardybits Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Needs to look the same so the wife doesn't notice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger King Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Bizarrely, my 1958 Frogeye is ULEZ exempt. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Golf Juliet Tango Posted August 28, 2022 Area Representative Share Posted August 28, 2022 Bizarrely, my 1958 Frogeye is ULEZ exempt. Go figure.Too few surviving to make it worth categorising unless they exclude all cars over a certain age. Although there are three in various stages of reconstruction in Berkhamsted (see the Unusual Sightings thread: https://www.caterhamlotus7.club/forum/spotted/unusual-sighting?page=8)Both the Crossflow and the 21 would attract a £12.50 inside the North & South Circular. I no longer have any desire to drive into central London there's no pleasure to be had, I'd prefer to use public transport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldAndrewE Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Roger, is your 1958 Frogeye registered in the "historic vehicle" tax class? These are exempt from ULEZ charges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger King Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Yes, it is. It just seems an odd exception. Please don't think I'm complaining! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmamba Posted August 29, 2022 Author Share Posted August 29, 2022 Agreed you may not want to drive into central London but hard to avoid the ULEZ issue if you live there and want to get out!My problem is I love the character of the K series and not sure if there is a good, compliant alternative so may just have to live with the cost. Assuming 20 days use per year (realistic for me), that's an extra £250 of road tax. Not ideal but not a show stopper either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardybits Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Living in/near London is another tax in itself, I can't bear the thought of paying yet more money just to pootle about in the 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Hide your number plates until you're outside the zone? If you're over 60 the free public transport offsets quite a few days of ULEZ charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger King Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 The easiest solution seems to be to buy a pre-1982 7, have it fully rebuilt, and then you are ULEZ exempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardybits Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 This is the other option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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