Andy Lef Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Yes there is loads on the website and it is very informative. Thank you as it has helped in my search for the way ahead.However, it would be very useful if I had a little more to go on when looking at new lamps under £200 each. The JAL and Caterham sold ones are good but too expensive for an occasional night blatter.I have seen the Cafe ones and Car builder ones and wondered if anyone has a few hints and tips for which one to go for?5 3/4 bowls.......Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Hutton Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 I just swapped out the halogen bulbs for the LED ones from classic car LEDs and it made a massive difference for minimal price. The extra bright daytime running lights really are good enough to work and you can sometimes mistakenly think you have the headlights on! When I inquired they sent me all the following info to make ordering easy and aligning he headlights was an easy DIY job in the garage. I marked the existing beam angle on the back of my garage door with masking tape and then made sure the new lights were set to the same angle.If you have 7" headlamp reflectors H4ZES1X2 would be the best upgrade. They are however to large for the 5 3/4" headlights for which we recommend H4INTX2 which have a similarly powerful beam.Please make note of the legal position mentioned in the item descriptions for headlights.For the rest of the lamps our recommended list is as follows:Front Sidelights - these should be a 501 capless fitting. Our standard upgrade is at this link and extra bright at this link.Stop Tail light 380 fitting we have a standard red upgrade or extra bright.Reverse 382 fitting we recommend the white LEDs at this link.Rear Fog 382 fitting we recommend the red LEDs at this link or the extra bright option at this link.Indicators will require an amber 382 which are at this link. They also need you to change your flasher relay as they do not draw enough current to work with a mechanical relay. Your relay should have 49, 49a and 31 connections. The relay at this link is a straight replacement.If you have a single indicator warning light on the dash, you may also need our diode harness kit which will stop sympathy flash of the external indicator lamps.Rear Number plate should be a 989 fitting which are available in various colours at this link.Please note that all the above items are sold as single units and that VAT will be added at checkout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted May 8, 2022 Member Share Posted May 8, 2022 As it's a new thread, and in case anyone doesn't know...There is a new regulation for MoT inspections:Existing halogen headlamp units on vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1986 must not be converted to be used with high intensity discharge (HID) or light emitting diode (LED) bulbs. If such a conversion has been done, you must fail the headlamp for light source and lamp not compatible.This does not refer to complete replacement headlamp units which may be constructed with HID or LED light sources.I haven't heard of this causing a failure.Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K7 VCT Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 So I have fitted the cafe racer 5 3/4 led units in the standard caterham bowls, it's a simple job, watch out the 3 spring clips don't fly away and wear goggles as they are tricky....around 1 hour to do both. Minor wires to joint for led side-drl, otherwise plug and play. Mine cost about £104 a pair in February 2021. More than happy with them, no need to spend more and fully mot compliant. Lots of 7 owners I know have these fitted . Message me if you need more information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixa1225 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 I have also fitted the cafer racer LED headlights. They are cheap but there is so little definition between dip and main beam you spend more time being flashed by other road users despite them being aligned at my MOT garage. Other users have complained about the same issue. I have reverted back to the standard lights at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GulfSeven Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 I've heard it suggested that some cheaper lights, although having E marks, aren't actually compliant. Not saying that applies the the cafe racer ones, but you probably get what you pay for. Mind you, the OEM Caterham ones are really expensive, even if bought through JAL with the club discount (as I did). They are however, very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K7 VCT Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Dixa,that's interesting on the issues you have. When I replaced my lights I never had to adjust them, did a quick test against my garage doors, the beam is flat and so much better both in lumens and beam pattern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Golf Juliet Tango Posted May 8, 2022 Area Representative Share Posted May 8, 2022 Classic Car LEDs for me, in both the Seven and the 21. I am aware of the wording in the MOT regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nic.day Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 I have a set of the cheap ones from ebay - same/similar to the cafe racer ones and I also have a rubbish difference between dipped and main. Also thinking of changing to something else. The dipped is good but main is rubbish (just looks like dipped but a bit brighter with no extra distance)So watching with interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan R Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Am also watching with interest and looking at replacing the standard yellow candle light . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM25T Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Wisamic 5.75" LED modules with super bright halo sidelight which is perfect for daylight driving without the need for dipped headlights. Flat top dip beam pattern. Only around £55 each side on eBay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 I use thesehttps://furoreproducts.co.uk/led-headlights'E' marked with flat top dip beam so fine for Euro travel too, Halo DRL, with Halo indicator too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Great, my cafe racer lights arrived yesterday - will be useful to get other opinions before I fit them (or send them back!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 From another road user point, this may not apply to the cafe racer ones, but lights with the 'letter box' DRL are not as visible as the Halo DRL versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Lef Posted May 9, 2022 Author Share Posted May 9, 2022 Thank you for all your comments - interesting to hear about the lack of difference between main and dipped on the Cafe lights also that the Halo DRL is better than the letter box option; the latter is a shame as I am not a fan of the Halo option.Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team Garry7 Posted May 9, 2022 Leadership Team Share Posted May 9, 2022 Plus one for the Wisamic lights. Easy to install and way better than the candle power of the OE lights. Got mine from Amazon for £111 the pair. At a club night car park test, my halos were brighter than regular dips.Garry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR400D Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 #16. What wiring changes are needed? Any resistors need to fitted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM25T Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 None Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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