New owner. Brakes question

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New owner. Brakes question

Hi all. I have just taken the plunge and bought a Seven again. 1.6k Supersport

It has standard discs, calipers and pads which just don't feel that great. Is there a better Pad option recommended for brisk Road use that would give them a bit more bite? Or should I be looking to upgrade the calipers?

I had a 1700 supersprint years ago and its brakes also had the same lacklustre feel to them..

Any recommendations would be much appreciated. 

Greg.

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Good 'upgrade' is to fit Mintex M1144 pads.

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Agree re the mintex, and consider a M/C change, the competition master cylinder, for me, gives a lovely solid feel, hardens up the pedal quite a lot.

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Do you know the age of the brake fluid ? Older fluid absorbs water from the air, which sinks to the calipers. If old, or unknown, bleed new fluid through the whole system.

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Thanks guys. I'll put some Mintex in and change the fluid. Then see how they feel. Cheers.

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Don't expect the brakes to feel like a modern over-servoed tintop.

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Check for any leaks/weeps or other way air could be entering the system. Dry paper towel/tissue around all the brake pipe joints will find any issues, best done when there's some pressure in the system. Doesn't take much air to spoil the feel.

Mintex 1144s or Ferodo DS2500s a good option, but you might want to match with different rear pads (otherwise the rear can be a bit snatchy which is entertaining if you trail brake).

 

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Hi Greg great work taking the plunge (again) -

I have done tons on my brakes and ended up chasing my tail, honestly you don't need bigger calipers unless running big power, (they DO look pretty though!) I converted mine, then struggle even on the track to get heat into them.

Stick with what the guys above say, pads and fluid all the way, then depending on the results chip away at it. 

One other really good bit of advice that I always ignore and regret!! - Change one thing at a time then test it, brakes are very personal and some of what happens doesn't seem logical but one thing at a time, scientific - thats why proper teams spend so much time testing, best of luck.

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Don't bother with bigger calipers. Race cars up to 310R use the standard calipers and they're more than capable of locking the wheels up. Race master cylinder is very much a personal preference, I hate it as it feels totally wooden to me, but others love it for the lack of pedal movement. If you're not used to non-servo brakes it's going to take a while to get the feel of them in any case.

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I can echo Rogers comment on the wooden feel but they do the job when needed. Problem is when I swap over to my daily, I nearly put the car on its nose!

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More great advise. Thanks guys. Good to know the standard calipers should be all I need at this spec. Fluid and Mintex it is then. Smile