K Series Fuel Pump

[Hulie Biasion]

Hi, I am looking to change the bag fuel tank in my car back to a standard tank. Firstly so I can fill the tank without spraying fuel over the luggage! And secondly so I can have fuel gauge. I can get hold of a tank but understand that the fuel pump including the mounting bracket is no longer available.

Does any know the original part number for the complete assembly?I believe it was from a Rover Metro but may be wrong.

Thanks for your help.

Julian

 

[Jonathan Kay]

Part numbers.

And I'd recommend Rimmer Bros for related fittings.

Jonathan

[Wrightpayne]

One of our local members (Benedict on BC) has just had a special tank made with tube style sender, more baffles and foam filled along with an externally mounted pump on his K. He was just finalising the install when we last spoke. 
 

I'm considering converting mine as this solution seems to future proof pump problems.

 

I'll send him a link to this post and see if he can share the details..

 

Ian

[JP]

I had to replace my pump recently and getting one from Redline was no problem.

The problem however is the carrier plate / mount.  I could re-use, but I do not know where you would get a new one now. 

[7 wonders of the world]

dip tube senders are much better than the OE guess -o-meter

OE Rover pump mounts are like hens teeth

You can get a fabricator to add a lower pick up to a stock tank and weld the old hole up using AN fittings so so can mount a Bosch 044 pump on the bulkhead he hide the drivers seat, you need a prefilter for the pump circa 60-80 micron straight forward plumbing with unions and hose from Torques at Abergavenny.

[revilla]

Metro 16V GTI

WFX10038

Whole assembly including the cradle, pulse damper, gauze filter and wiring currently available from Brown & Gammons for £120 here: https://www.ukmgparts.com/product/unknown-any-car-part-unknown/fuel-pump-metro-16v-gti-wfx10038

Can confirm that I know of someone who bought one and it was the correct part and fit.

They were unavailable for years, I don't know where they unearthed the current stock from but it probably won't last long so get one while you can.

[Wrightpayne]

Looks like only the 'request stock alert' button is available now :-(

[Benedict.]

Apologies if this is a duplicate. I tried to post this earlier but it doesn't seem to have shown up, so reposting from initial textfile.

Yes, Hi Ian 

I went to Concept Racing, (chosen mainly due to countless recommendations by the perfectionists that are the amazing RetroPower (If you're new to them I'd suggest starting with the build diary of the Mk1 Escort for Gordon Murray (yes, that one))) and got a new tank built to accommodate an external pump and a dip-tube sender.

I particularly wanted a dip-tube sender to introduce some linearity into the fuel reading. I already use the Stack programmable fuel gauge, which is great as you can set it to any resistance range. I used the VDO dip-tube sender, which Concept were also able to supply.
The other main drive behind this was to eliminate non E10 compatible items, hoses,gaskets, etc.

I bought the hose, fittings and filters from Torques as they seem reasonably priced and I'd heard from a few people who were happy with their service/products (FWIW I am too).

My car was (from after loads of upgrades before I bought it) using a copper pipe running down the t/tunnel to supply the fuel rail and a black plastic tube returning to the tank. I binned the plastic tube, used the existing copper pipe for the return and installed new hose from the post-pump filter to the fuel rail. It was all stainless overbraid, so I've secured it as immovably as possible and anywhere it comes into contact with anything else wrapped spiral-wrap around to stop it abrading anything.

I initially bought a Bosch 044 Sytec "equivalent / replacement" as an external pump, following what I've seen found a couple of people do. The only place I found to mount it was on the bulkhead behind the rear seat, near the old Rover filter.
This ended up being quite noisy; "A squashcourt full of a million angry wasps" was the phrase that sprang to mind. It seems that a couple of issues contributed to this; even though it has a rubber surround within its mounting clamp, it still uses the bulkhead as a soundboard and it seems, with further reading, that it's a fecking noisy pump anyway.

It all worked OK, but I've now bought a the Bosch made replacement for the "044" after reading that while not silent, the design is much quieter in operation. I'll either sell the (popular) "044" pump on or just keep it as an emergency spare.

Unfortunately I have not had time to finish getting that fitted before having to go in for a hernia operation. That was 2½ weeks ago, and while I'm ostensibly fine now (minor discomfort) I am under very strict instructions not to lift or do anything exertive until well into June. Unfortunately, and rather annoyingly that leaves me rather snookered in getting the job finished and being able to use the car .

However, what I would say is that I have all the stuff that I removed available to sell; so that's the original tank, fuel sender and pump, that were all working when removed. I'm not sure what the going rate is, but give me a shout if you're interested.

[revilla]

Damn yes, looks like the last one just went!

[7 wonders of the world]

Why not ditch the return line an use a dead end rail set up.... only one fuel line in the tunnel then, 

 

[Benedict.]

The main reason was to keep the current setup with the current adjustable regulator. I don't know what pressure that is set to, so to put a different type of regulator on would need at least an accurate pressure measurement and setting the new one to exactly match, and ideally a CD session to check the mapping at least.
I also wanted to use the existing copper tube for the lower pressure return due to the fittings used to connect either end.

[7 wonders of the world]

I use this set up and the reg (standard Weber item) can be swapped easily if required, you also need a metal 8mm T piece too